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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:15 PM   #21
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BOOM! Just like that--right out of the chute.....we're off topic. The very idea that someone, somewhere, would, at some point actually "punish" LEGAL white American children??? IS outrageous. Poor Caca. Someone better check on him.
It's absolutely inconceivable to the RW (because they haven't been paying attention to the census or are in denial) that whites, may SOME DAY, be held accountable for the magnitude of atrocities they are responsible for. Whites are now the numerical minority in a half dozen states, and they will be the nation’s numerical minority in a little more than 25 years. And now, for the first time ever, there are fewer white than nonwhite children under 10 years of age. Nonwhites accounted for nearly 96 percent of the 14.4 million people added to the U.S. population between 2010 and 2016. White women have fewer babies than Latina women--almost twice the number. Does anyone out there actually think these statistics will not determine our future political candidates, our laws, & our social programs? Does anyone out there think our current minorities will THANK US white folk for the laws we have implemented?
I think the article makes great points....and as we all know anything is possible. I mean look WHO is the sitting president.

"Magnitude of atrocities"? Like the dead Union soldiers who freed the slaves?

Clara, just another useful idiot, with a strong tinge of fascism, and self-loathing.

So Brazil sounds good to you? Or Venezuela? Useful idiots are usually the first to go.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:15 PM   #22
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"Only Mass Deportation Can Save America"
a) ?!

b) "Save America"?! FROM WHAT ?!

c) CNN / Money reports ending DACA will cost the U.S. economy $280 $Billion.

Please explain in what way that $quarter $Trillion loss contributes to saving America.

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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:18 PM   #23
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BOOM! Just like that--right out of the chute.....we're off topic. The very idea that someone, somewhere, would, at some point actually "punish" LEGAL white American children??? IS outrageous. Poor Caca. Someone better check on him.
It's absolutely inconceivable to the RW (because they haven't been paying attention to the census or are in denial) that whites, may SOME DAY, be held accountable for the magnitude of atrocities they are responsible for. Whites are now the numerical minority in a half dozen states, and they will be the nation’s numerical minority in a little more than 25 years. And now, for the first time ever, there are fewer white than nonwhite children under 10 years of age. Nonwhites accounted for nearly 96 percent of the 14.4 million people added to the U.S. population between 2010 and 2016. White women have fewer babies than Latina women--almost twice the number. Does anyone out there actually think these statistics will not determine our future political candidates, our laws, & our social programs? Does anyone out there think our current minorities will THANK US white folk for the laws we have implemented?
I think the article makes great points....and as we all know anything is possible. I mean look WHO is the sitting president.
If you haven't noticed Clara, Truther has a thing for Brazil and Venezuela.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:18 PM   #24
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CNN reports. LOL LOL
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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:20 PM   #25
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If you haven't noticed Clara, Truther has a thing for Brazil and Venezuela.

Camelot, another useful idiot, and a self-loathing white. So you prefer Cuba to Brazil or Venezuela then? No? Ah, got it, you are more a North Korea guy.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:29 PM   #26
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Camelot, another useful idiot, and a self-loathing white. So you prefer Cuba to Brazil or Venezuela then? No? Ah, got it, you are more a North Korea guy.
I prefer an Ayatollah thank you.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 06:44 PM   #27
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Only Mass Deportation Can Save America




In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.

They need to return whence they came.

I speak of Americans whose families have been in this country for a few generations. Complacent, entitled and often shockingly ignorant on basic points of American law and history, they are the stagnant pool in which our national prospects risk drowning.

On point after point, America’s nonimmigrants are failing our country. Crime? A study by the Cato Institute notes that nonimmigrants are incarcerated at nearly twice the rate of illegal immigrants, and at more than three times the rate of legal ones.

Educational achievement? Just 17 percent of the finalists in the 2016 Intel Science Talent Search — often called the “Junior Nobel Prize” — were the children of United States-born parents. At the Rochester Institute of Technology, just 9.5 percent of graduate students in electrical engineering were nonimmigrants.

Religious piety — especially of the Christian variety? More illegal immigrants identify as Christian (83 percent) than do Americans (70.6 percent), a fact right-wing immigration restrictionists might ponder as they bemoan declines in church attendance.

Business creation? Nonimmigrants start businesses at half the rate of immigrants, and accounted for fewer than half the companies started in Silicon Valley between 1995 and 2005. Overall, the share of nonimmigrant entrepreneurs fell by more than 10 percentage points between 1995 and 2008, according to a Harvard Business Review study.

Nor does the case against nonimmigrants end there. The rate of out-of-wedlock births for United States-born mothers exceeds the rate for foreign-born moms, 42 percent to 33 percent. The rate of delinquency and criminality among nonimmigrant teens considerably exceeds that of their immigrant peers. A recent report by the Sentencing Project also finds evidence that the fewer immigrants there are in a neighborhood, the likelier it is to be unsafe.

And then there’s the all-important issue of demographics. The race for the future is ultimately a race for people — healthy, working-age, fertile people — and our nonimmigrants fail us here, too. “The increase in the overall number of U.S. births, from 3.74 million in 1970 to 4.0 million in 2014, is due entirely to births to foreign-born mothers,” reports the Pew Research Center. Without these immigrant moms, the United States would be faced with the same demographic death spiral that now confronts Japan.

Bottom line: So-called real Americans are screwing up America. Maybe they should leave, so that we can replace them with new and better ones: newcomers who are more appreciative of what the United States has to offer, more ambitious for themselves and their children, and more willing to sacrifice for the future. In other words, just the kind of people we used to be — when “we” had just come off the boat.

O.K., so I’m jesting about deporting “real Americans” en masse. (Who would take them in, anyway?) But then the threat of mass deportations has been no joke with this administration.

On Thursday, the Department of Homeland Security seemed prepared to extend an Obama administration program known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, which allows the children of illegal immigrants — some 800,000 people in all — to continue to study and work in the United States. The decision would have reversed one of Donald Trump’s ugly campaign threats to deport these kids, whose only crime was to have been brought to the United States by their parents.

Yet the administration is still committed to deporting their parents, and on Friday the D.H.S. announced that even DACA remains under review — another cruel twist for young immigrants wondering if they’ll be sent back to “home” countries they hardly ever knew, and whose language they might barely even speak.

Beyond the inhumanity of toying with people’s lives this way, there’s also the shortsightedness of it. We do not usually find happiness by driving away those who would love us. Businesses do not often prosper by firing their better employees and discouraging job applications. So how does America become great again by berating and evicting its most energetic, enterprising, law-abiding, job-creating, idea-generating, self-multiplying and God-fearing people?

Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers — the people who strain hardest to become a part of it because they realize that it’s precious; and who do the most to remake it so that our ideas, and our appeal, may stay fresh.

That used to be a cliché, but in the Age of Trump it needs to be explained all over again. We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.

by Bret Stephens

No wonder you guys are so bitter and fucked up.

How much of this drivel do you ingest on a daily basis?

Holy crap!!!


Do you read the propaganda that you post or does it just come to your inbox w/ instructions from the hive mind to pass around?


Wow. Just wow!
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Old September 7th, 2017, 07:13 PM   #28
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No wonder you guys are so bitter and fucked up.

How much of this drivel do you ingest on a daily basis?

Holy crap!!!


Do you read the propaganda that you post or does it just come to your inbox w/ instructions from the hive mind to pass around?


Wow. Just wow!


They drink deep drafts of regressive propaganda daily. Started last year with FiveThirtyEight, and others, virtually guaranteeing a Clinton win, then they went into shock the night of November 8, morning of November 9 2016. They have been deeply drinking the hate 24/7 and spewing it back out all over the internet. Yes, they are real haters. Embracing fascists now, while they virtue signal, while posting hate.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 07:22 PM   #29
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No wonder you guys are so bitter and fucked up.
Projection!

Good self reflection though, dude. Being "bitter and fucked up" are pretty much the hallmarks of the far right wing Trump supporters, as is made very obvious by the ones like you that we see on this forum.




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How much of this drivel do you ingest on a daily basis?
More projection!

Quite a hilarious comment though, coming from a brainwashed, drivel-spewing Trump supporter like you.




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Do you read the propaganda that you post or does it just come to your inbox w/ instructions from the hive mind to pass around?
Still more projection!!!

Too bad you are such a such a silly clueless dupe, stooging so shamelessly for your political and corporate puppet-masters/overlords.



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Wow. Just wow!
Yeah, too bad you're still too clueless, bamboozled and stupid to understand simple facts, like the ones mentioned in the OP.
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Old September 7th, 2017, 07:31 PM   #30
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T #24

That was spectacularly revealing T #24, even if unintentionally so.

a) Your non-responsive ad hom ridicule demonstrates on some shallow level you understand the point about the $280 $Billion loss for Trump xenophobia deserves address.

b) If there were a valid way to address it, you probably would have. You didn't.
"LOL" is neither a logical argument, nor persuasive refutation.

Grudging affirmation is both sincere and rewarding.

My thanks to you.

However, if you should find the spine to actually present a logical argument, instead of having the emoties speak for you, you're welcome to try.
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