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Old September 7th, 2017, 07:07 AM   #1
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Only Mass Deportation Can Save America

Only Mass Deportation Can Save America




In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system.

They need to return whence they came.

I speak of Americans whose families have been in this country for a few generations. Complacent, entitled and often shockingly ignorant on basic points of American law and history, they are the stagnant pool in which our national prospects risk drowning.

On point after point, America’s nonimmigrants are failing our country. Crime? A study by the Cato Institute notes that nonimmigrants are incarcerated at nearly twice the rate of illegal immigrants, and at more than three times the rate of legal ones.

Educational achievement? Just 17 percent of the finalists in the 2016 Intel Science Talent Search — often called the “Junior Nobel Prize” — were the children of United States-born parents. At the Rochester Institute of Technology, just 9.5 percent of graduate students in electrical engineering were nonimmigrants.

Religious piety — especially of the Christian variety? More illegal immigrants identify as Christian (83 percent) than do Americans (70.6 percent), a fact right-wing immigration restrictionists might ponder as they bemoan declines in church attendance.

Business creation? Nonimmigrants start businesses at half the rate of immigrants, and accounted for fewer than half the companies started in Silicon Valley between 1995 and 2005. Overall, the share of nonimmigrant entrepreneurs fell by more than 10 percentage points between 1995 and 2008, according to a Harvard Business Review study.

Nor does the case against nonimmigrants end there. The rate of out-of-wedlock births for United States-born mothers exceeds the rate for foreign-born moms, 42 percent to 33 percent. The rate of delinquency and criminality among nonimmigrant teens considerably exceeds that of their immigrant peers. A recent report by the Sentencing Project also finds evidence that the fewer immigrants there are in a neighborhood, the likelier it is to be unsafe.

And then there’s the all-important issue of demographics. The race for the future is ultimately a race for people — healthy, working-age, fertile people — and our nonimmigrants fail us here, too. “The increase in the overall number of U.S. births, from 3.74 million in 1970 to 4.0 million in 2014, is due entirely to births to foreign-born mothers,” reports the Pew Research Center. Without these immigrant moms, the United States would be faced with the same demographic death spiral that now confronts Japan.

Bottom line: So-called real Americans are screwing up America. Maybe they should leave, so that we can replace them with new and better ones: newcomers who are more appreciative of what the United States has to offer, more ambitious for themselves and their children, and more willing to sacrifice for the future. In other words, just the kind of people we used to be — when “we” had just come off the boat.

O.K., so I’m jesting about deporting “real Americans” en masse. (Who would take them in, anyway?) But then the threat of mass deportations has been no joke with this administration.

On Thursday, the Department of Homeland Security seemed prepared to extend an Obama administration program known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, which allows the children of illegal immigrants — some 800,000 people in all — to continue to study and work in the United States. The decision would have reversed one of Donald Trump’s ugly campaign threats to deport these kids, whose only crime was to have been brought to the United States by their parents.

Yet the administration is still committed to deporting their parents, and on Friday the D.H.S. announced that even DACA remains under review — another cruel twist for young immigrants wondering if they’ll be sent back to “home” countries they hardly ever knew, and whose language they might barely even speak.

Beyond the inhumanity of toying with people’s lives this way, there’s also the shortsightedness of it. We do not usually find happiness by driving away those who would love us. Businesses do not often prosper by firing their better employees and discouraging job applications. So how does America become great again by berating and evicting its most energetic, enterprising, law-abiding, job-creating, idea-generating, self-multiplying and God-fearing people?

Because I’m the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers — the people who strain hardest to become a part of it because they realize that it’s precious; and who do the most to remake it so that our ideas, and our appeal, may stay fresh.

That used to be a cliché, but in the Age of Trump it needs to be explained all over again. We’re a country of immigrants — by and for them, too. Americans who don’t get it should get out.

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I think his point is that a lot of fat and lazy self entitled white Americans whine about immigrants when the immigrant as are usually harder working and harder studying individuals. I think he is saying that the red neck white trash have a lot of nerve projecting their insecurities and shortcomings upon immigrants.
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Just when did legal American citizens, living in a sovereign nation, become subject to the whims of the Progressive Left?! Attacking the rights of legal citizens and their children is beyond ridiculous, it's insane! Putting the wants of immigrants and illegal aliens ahead of the wants and needs of legal Americans is repugnant on every level. And those that do, are scum!
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Just when did legal American citizens, living in a sovereign nation, become subject to the whims of the Progressive Left?!
Rather insane and totally meaningless gibberish from a confused Trump supporter and racist.





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Attacking the rights of legal citizens and their children is beyond ridiculous, it's insane!
Since no one was doing that, your moronic response is what is "insane", not to mention "ridiculous"!




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Putting the wants of immigrants and illegal aliens ahead of the wants and needs of legal Americans is repugnant on every level. And those that do, are scum!
Most immigrants are far bettter Americans that the stinking shit-pile of racist, fascist, dumb-fuck far-right-wingers that spawned you.
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Just when did legal American citizens, living in a sovereign nation, become subject to the whims of the Progressive Left?! Attacking the rights of legal citizens and their children is beyond ridiculous, it's insane! Putting the wants of immigrants and illegal aliens ahead of the wants and needs of legal Americans is repugnant on every level. And those that do, are scum!
and just what the fuck do you think YOUR ancestors did?!
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The fascists and useful idiots, tristanrobin, Camelot, are on full display.

The useful idiots who think they would be immune if their wet dream of a regressive government came true. Except the useful idiots would be the fist to go, and no one would shed a tear for them.
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I think his point is that a lot of fat and lazy self entitled white Americans whine about immigrants when the immigrant as are usually harder working and harder studying individuals. I think he is saying that the red neck white trash have a lot of nerve projecting their insecurities and shortcomings upon immigrants.
ONE MORE TIME FOR THE PEOPLE THAT CANNOT READ OR UNDERSTAND REALITY

WE DON'T MIND IMMIGRATION WHAT WE ARE UPSET WITH IS THE OPERATIVE PRONOUN ILLEGAL.


immigrantion is a wonderful beautiful thing..


the problems is ILLEGAL immigration
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and just what the fuck do you think YOUR ancestors did?!
Fucked over the American Indians?
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Fucked over the American Indians?
The American Indians were fucked over, I don't disagree but they now have Casinos and reservations and other benefits, but they for the most part are still are living in crap houses on reservations and failing to help their own.
I found this to be a ture saying while stationed with the Marines, never give an Indian Fire Water!, they will go completely crazy.
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The fascists and useful idiots....are on full display.

The useful idiots who think they would be immune if their wet dream of a regressive government came true.
A clear example of some very pathetic rightwingnut psychological projection.

Projection is the psychological phenomenon where someone denies some aspect of their behavior or attitudes and assumes instead that others are doing or thinking so. It is usually seen as the externalisation of a person's negative traits, placing blame on an outside force such as the environment, a government, a society or other people.

A common forum for projection is in internet arguments, where it is usually pathetically obvious to everyone except the projector. In that context, the phenomenon may be called mirror-imaging.

Examples
An adulterous husband may think his wife is sleeping around (or vice versa).
A liar usually is convinced that everyone else is lying to him.
Creationists assert that supporters of evolution are religious zealots.
Religious (especially Christian) fanatics assert that atheism is a religion.
Rightwing purveyors of "fake news" and fraudulent propaganda accuse fact-checking mainstream media of deliberately lying.
Racists who claim that anyone who criticises them must also be racially prejudiced.
Republican commercial organizations encourage rampant consumerism over Christmas, overwhelming other aspects of the festival. Then Republicans accuse American Liberals of a War on Christmas.
Avowed Nazi flag carrying Fascists who accuse everyone who objects to their racist hate rants of being "the real fascists".
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