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Old September 9th, 2017, 06:52 AM   #21
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I DON'T love the ignorance of people who think that "hatred and bigotry" includes intolerance of hatred and bigotry!

Geesh. We learned how stupid that crap was in 7th grade when we read "1984" and learned about NewSpeak and DoubleSpeak!
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Old September 9th, 2017, 08:07 AM   #22
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What a over dramatic pile of shit from a whiny ass oh woe is me you didnt vote like I wanted you to from a self absorbent narcissistic bitch.
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Old September 9th, 2017, 08:28 AM   #23
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What a over dramatic pile of shit from a whiny ass oh woe is me you didnt vote like I wanted you to from a self absorbent narcissistic bitch.
Thanks for an outstanding example of hatred and bigotry. The misogyny icing was a nice touch.
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Old September 9th, 2017, 08:31 AM   #24
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Ironical ain't it? Hatred and bigotry are hatred and bigotry, is that beyond you? Or are you like other posters here, YOUR hatred and bigotry are justified but if you think you see it in other people who are different than you they're "bad" people. I love the irony.
If you have a dog and you mistreat it, when you get careless, get too close, turn your back or what ever, is it REALLY the dog's fault when he tears you to shreds ??? Is his hatred and bigotry not justified ??

You seem to be saying that no matter how unjustly someone has been treated, they should never feel anger or malice towards the people that mistreated them. Rather ironic coming from someone whose avatar, though fictional, killed a whole bunch of people because they were using violence to enforce their own hatred and bigotry.

Are you saying you NEVER get angry ?? Are you saying you have no negative feelings towards anyone ??

Welcome to the board Jesus !! I wasn't aware you had returned, weren't you supposed ti bring Armageddon with you this trip ??
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Old September 9th, 2017, 09:11 AM   #25
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I DON'T love the ignorance of people who think that "hatred and bigotry" includes intolerance of hatred and bigotry!

Geesh. We learned how stupid that crap was in 7th grade when we read "1984" and learned about NewSpeak and DoubleSpeak!
So, in your mind, anyone who supports free speech is supporting hatred and bigotry? That statement is in, and of its self bigoted. Your classifying a whole group of people as ignorant because they support the rights of others who have a different opinion. Very few people support hatred and bigotry. The ignorance lies in not being able to separate one from the other.
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Old September 9th, 2017, 09:21 AM   #26
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I DON'T love the ignorance of people who think that "hatred and bigotry" includes intolerance of hatred and bigotry!

Geesh. We learned how stupid that crap was in 7th grade when we read "1984" and learned about NewSpeak and DoubleSpeak!
Why do you people always point to Orwell when Huxley was far more correct?

Oh right, it's because you never actually read either of them. Your knowledge of them exists primarily to throw political insults. Reading Brave New World is the biggest redpill there is. The resemblances to our fucked up, degraded society today is uncanny.
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Old September 9th, 2017, 09:22 AM   #27
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If you have a dog and you mistreat it, when you get careless, get too close, turn your back or what ever, is it REALLY the dog's fault when he tears you to shreds ??? Is his hatred and bigotry not justified ??

You seem to be saying that no matter how unjustly someone has been treated, they should never feel anger or malice towards the people that mistreated them. Rather ironic coming from someone whose avatar, though fictional, killed a whole bunch of people because they were using violence to enforce their own hatred and bigotry.

Are you saying you NEVER get angry ?? Are you saying you have no negative feelings towards anyone ??

Welcome to the board Jesus !! I wasn't aware you had returned, weren't you supposed ti bring Armageddon with you this trip ??
Now your talking about hatred that was acted upon. That's a different issue. That's were the line between opinion (free speech) and overt action are separated. Groups like the KKK and BLM can spout off all day long, as long as they don't act upon it. Until it's acted upon its just opinion (free speech).
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Old September 9th, 2017, 10:39 AM   #28
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Now your talking about hatred that was acted upon. That's a different issue. That's were the line between opinion (free speech) and overt action are separated. Groups like the KKK and BLM can spout off all day long, as long as they don't act upon it. Until it's acted upon its just opinion (free speech).

I understand ALLLL about the first amendment. I FULLY realize that as disgusting as they are, the kluckers and the nazis have a constitutionally guaranteed right to their free speech.

The problem I'd having here is that many of the conservative on this board will mention the right to free speech, then turn around and imply and in some cases openly state that the counter protesters shouldn't be there. That somehow THEIR first amendment rights are less than those of the klucker and nazis.

Let's face it. MOST of the counter protesters that have attended these events were NOT affiliated with antifa or bamn, yet you and others on this board seem to want to paint them with the same brush.

Most of them are just normal everyday people who are as disgusted by these groups as I am. They show up to make a statement. To say NO we won't allow this again. To SHOW the kluckers that they ARE outnumbered. But again you and many of the conservatives on here want to call them hateful and bigoted for standing up against hate and bigotry ??

When the girl got run over in Charlottesville at least one of you stated she wouldn't have gotten hurt if she hadn't been there !!

WHY IS THAT ?? Why is it the counter protesters, according to you, have LESS right to their free speech than the nazis ??

The klan and the nazis have a long well document history of hatred, bigotry and violence. How can ANY rational person not want to show up in mass and show them we won't tolerate them anymore. How is being intolerant of a completely intolerant ideology not a rational response ???
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Sadly, she, you and others like you justify your own hatred and bigotry by trying to point out the same qualities in others.
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What utter bullshit!

American Nazis, the KKK, White Supremacists, and most rightwingnuts (like you) are filled with "hatred and bigotry" for Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, immigrants, Jews, Gays and LGBTs, and non-Christians (anyone outside their own crackpot varieties), plus anyone else they see as different from themselves.

In a moronic 'false equivalency' attempt to excuse your own and other's despicable bigotry, rightwingnuts like you try insanely to claim that the sane liberal progressive people who oppose you are "just as bad, just as filled with hatred and bigotry".....why?.....because they are opposed to Nazis? Because they stand up for the people that your kind hates and fears and wants to oppress and discriminate against? Because they oppose hatred and bigotry? LOLOL. You are a sad joke!

Moral equivalence is a form of equivocation and a fallacy of relevance often used in political debates. It seeks to draw comparisons between different, often unrelated things, to make a point that one is just as bad as the other or just as good as the other. It may be used to draw attention to an unrelated issue by comparing it to a well-known bad event, in an attempt to say one is as bad as the other. Or, it may be used in an attempt to claim one isn't as bad as the other by comparison. Drawing a moral equivalence in this way is a logical fallacy.
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Ironical ain't it? Hatred and bigotry are hatred and bigotry....
Yup! Except for the fact that you have not offered any evidence or rational explanation whatsoever for your crackpot belief that liberals are afflicted with the kind of "hatred and bigotry" that everyone can see so clearly in those Nazi punks, the totally racist KKK, or the retarded white supremacists. People opposing Nazis are NOT expressing "hatred and bigotry", you poor moronic loon, they are opposing those things!
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Old September 9th, 2017, 01:03 PM   #30
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I understand ALLLL about the first amendment. I FULLY realize that as disgusting as they are, the kluckers and the nazis have a constitutionally guaranteed right to their free speech.

The problem I'd having here is that many of the conservative on this board will mention the right to free speech, then turn around and imply and in some cases openly state that the counter protesters shouldn't be there. That somehow THEIR first amendment rights are less than those of the klucker and nazis.

Let's face it. MOST of the counter protesters that have attended these events were NOT affiliated with antifa or bamn, yet you and others on this board seem to want to paint them with the same brush.

Most of them are just normal everyday people who are as disgusted by these groups as I am. They show up to make a statement. To say NO we won't allow this again. To SHOW the kluckers that they ARE outnumbered. But again you and many of the conservatives on here want to call them hateful and bigoted for standing up against hate and bigotry ??

When the girl got run over in Charlottesville at least one of you stated she wouldn't have gotten hurt if she hadn't been there !!

WHY IS THAT ?? Why is it the counter protesters, according to you, have LESS right to their free speech than the nazis ??

The klan and the nazis have a long well document history of hatred, bigotry and violence. How can ANY rational person not want to show up in mass and show them we won't tolerate them anymore. How is being intolerant of a completely intolerant ideology not a rational response ???

That is the point, besides Charlottesville these have been free speech rallies and the majority of right leaning people have NOT been from one of those groups yet violent, masked leftists showed up maliciously to all of the events.

Their purpose is to shut down events that go against the regressive lefts narrative.


If both groups would just sit on opposite sides of the street and yelled at each other but that is not the case. Ben Shapiro is speaking at Berkeley next week. They have charged an additional $15k in security fees and shut down a number of additional buildingdps because of threats by antifa and BAMN and history of the violent left in that area. Furthermore they have made it difficult to obtain tickets and I believe have only released 1/3 of the agreed upon tickets. Is this because Ben Shapiro is a nazi, from the KKK or is it because they do not agree w/ his POV and want him silenced.
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