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Old October 9th, 2017, 12:23 PM   #31
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VP Pence left the Colts-49ers Game when some of the 49ers took a knee during the national anthem.

So, after flying out to Indianapolis (on our dime), setting up the special security precautions of having the VP attend the game (on our dime) Pence gets up and walks out in an obvious staged event.

The problem is that the stage was paid for by our tax dollars.

ONLY problem it was not a PR Stunt.

At the play Hamilton they protested him personally he sit through it and took it and finished the play.

This time they dishonored those that died for our freedom, disrespected those police officers that ran into a hail of fire in Las Vegas, and Dallas etc..

That was not acceptable to him. Pence is a real man of honor, the players are crybabies, that are over paid, that is why they have lost 30% of their audience in the last few months. Now all of a sudden their Convictions to kneel and disrespect has quickly ended because their pocketbooks are being wounded.

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Old October 9th, 2017, 01:09 PM   #32
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ONLY problem it was not a PR Stunt.
Really?
So Pence was just foolishly ignorant of what was going to happen with these players, like it had played out before?
Come on. Surely you don't believe that b.s.


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This time they dishonored those that died for our freedom, disrespected those police officers that ran into a hail of fire in Las Vegas, and Dallas etc..
I get really tired of trying to pretend kneeling somehow is pissing on the graves of all these other people.
It's a dumb, b.s. argument.

Tell me.
When you're at home watching the game and the national anthem comes on, do you stand and put your hand over your heart?
Or do you sit or get yourself a soda or all sorts of other actions where you don't even care that it's on ...
... unless a black man is protesting.
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That section is entitled "Respect for flag". :yes
176. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
(f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10


How come right-wingers ignore all these other supposed insults towards "veterans" or "police officers" ???
Yeah. Rhetorical question...
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Old October 9th, 2017, 01:27 PM   #34
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ONLY problem it was not a PR Stunt.

At the play Hamilton they protested him personally he sit through it and took it and finished the play.

This time they dishonored those that died for our freedom, disrespected those police officers that ran into a hail of fire in Las Vegas, and Dallas etc..

That was not acceptable to him. Pence is a real man of honor, the players are crybabies, that are over paid, that is why they have lost 30% of their audience in the last few months. Now all of a sudden their Convictions to kneel and disrespect has quickly ended because their pocketbooks are being wounded.
It was a PR stunt of the highest order.

Pence had not been to a football game in over 3 years. He attended a game in which one of the teams (the S.F. 49ers) was at the forefront of the anthem protest insuring there would be players taking a knee during the anthem. Reporters in the press pool were told not to bother getting out of the bus since it was likely the VP would be leaving early. Pence decided that this was going to be the event that threw his hissy fit over because of the "disrespect" shown to our service members while his boss (Herr Dumpster) has shown nothing but disrespect for a war hero (John McCain) but Pence hasn't said one word in protest about that.

And how does "taking a knee" all of a sudden become a sign of DISrespect? In every other context "taking a knee" is a sign of respect! Hell, your own religion tells us how the wise men (and the animals in the manger) "took a knee" to honor the Christ child! Are you suggesting that our flag/anthem/nation deserves MORE respect than your God?!?!?!?

This was a stunt. I know it, Pence knows it, EVERYONE knows it including you. You just can't stand the idea of admitting that YOUR President and VP are petty & shallow men who dishonor and disrespect the office they hold and the country they are supposed to represent on a daily basis.

Our service members sacrificed, fought and sometimes died protecting a set of ideas not a song or a piece of cloth. Those ideas include the notion that everyone has the right to speak their opinion or to protest something they see as wrong with the government. The TRUE disrespect for these ideas comes when someone calls those engaging in a peaceful, non disruptive protest a "son of a bitch"

So you and Pence and Trump can take your moral outrage and stuff it.
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Old October 9th, 2017, 01:46 PM   #35
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VP Pence left the Colts-49ers Game when some of the 49ers took a knee during the national anthem.

So, after flying out to Indianapolis (on our dime), setting up the special security precautions of having the VP attend the game (on our dime) Pence gets up and walks out in an obvious staged event.

The problem is that the stage was paid for by our tax dollars.
Nothing when compared to what the Democratic investigation into the 'nothing burger' of the fake 'Trump election collusion scandal' is costing the Nation!
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Yep, the Mueller investigation into Russia is costing millions. Nothing makes me laugh as much as regressives pretending to worry about spending! How much do illegals cost taxpayers every year? Tens-of-billions.
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Nothing when compared to what the Democratic investigation into the 'nothing burger' of the fake 'Trump election collusion scandal' is costing the Nation!
Holy crap! You want to complain about "nothing burger" investigations??? The Trum -Russia investigation has been going on less than a year AND the bi-partisan head of the Congressional panel investigating has said that Russia DID attempt to influence the election. They DID NOT rule out some sort of collusion between Trump people and the Russians.

How long did the Benghazi hearings go on? And even IF they had "found something" against Hillary what would that have been? That she lied about the reason for the attack on the Embassy??? Big whoop di doo!!! It wouldn't have changed anything about what happened or what was done in response. The investigating panel DID conclude that no improper actions were taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack.

So don't cry about the investigation about possible Trump-Russian collision until it has lasted at least as long as the Benghazi probe and returns a finding that nothing was found. Because until BOTH of those things happen there is no comparison!!!
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Trump is blatantly playing to his base.

The plan had been for Vice President Mike Pence to attend the Indianapolis Colts game at which Peyton Manning’s number was to be retired, a gala celebration of the former Colts quarterback’s contributions to Pence’s home state.

The former governor of Indiana and his wife, wearing a Manning No. 18 jersey, left Lucas Oil Stadium after the national anthem, following instructions from President Trump after a number of San Francisco 49ers players, as they usually do, took a knee during the anthem.

“I asked @VP Pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled,” Trump posted on Twitter. “I am proud of him and @SecondLady Karen.”

This whole thing was staged--from start to finish....at taxpayer expense.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0f47e4d83eee
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Holy crap! You want to complain about "nothing burger" investigations??? The Trum -Russia investigation has been going on less than a year AND the bi-partisan head of the Congressional panel investigating has said that Russia DID attempt to influence the election. They DID NOT rule out some sort of collusion between Trump people and the Russians.

How long did the Benghazi hearings go on? And even IF they had "found something" against Hillary what would that have been? That she lied about the reason for the attack on the Embassy??? Big whoop di doo!!! It wouldn't have changed anything about what happened or what was done in response. The investigating panel DID conclude that no improper actions were taken in the immediate aftermath of the attack.

So don't cry about the investigation about possible Trump-Russian collision until it has lasted at least as long as the Benghazi probe and returns a finding that nothing was found. Because until BOTH of those things happen there is no comparison!!!
You're just pissed because you know I'm right, and you're also right about the comparison it's millions vs a couple hundred thousand.
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Trump triggers them again. #epic!
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