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Old October 9th, 2017, 03:20 PM   #31
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Back in the day Medical Professionals couldn't even tell each other when a patient was positive. They had to work out their own signals to keep each other safe.
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Old October 9th, 2017, 03:26 PM   #32
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Murder is not a federal crime generally speaking either..but
...but in Montana, Wyoming, Arizona, , Texas, Kansas, Alabama, West Virginia, Minnesota, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Oregon, Massachusetts, New York, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Delaware, and , Hawaii, DC a failure to disclose having HIV won't even have you guilty of a misdemeanor.

In one of those states it's like, "Oooops, I shoulda told ya I got HIV...."

Reporting on this is news. Cherry picking on California is propaganda.
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LOL, it's what the article is about. No cherry picking involved at all.
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Old October 9th, 2017, 03:30 PM   #34
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You have addressed it for your position.
But on that front, lying about / concealing one's HIV status is still illegal, isn't
We are not just talking about lying/concealing now are we pumpkin?


We have laws against intentionally harming another person. Shit we have laws from doing it by accident if you are found negligent. Think vehicular manslaughter. We have laws against smoking in bars. If we as a society can accept those laws but reject a law about knowingly infecting, or even intentionally putting someone at risk of contracting a deadly disease we are doing something wrong.
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Yawn. Go away kid, you're boring. It is news.
NEWS would be admitting the legal landscape. Acknowledging ALL the state laws (and absence thereof).
The reality is that the 36% of states which have no laws are more problematic than the one that has moved it from "felony" to "misdemeanor".
And of those remaining 64%, do you have any clue (or appreciation) for how many have it as simple "misdemeanor"?

Propaganda is when you cherry pick one state to whine about, while ignoring all the other examples which aren't favorable...


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LOL, it's what the article is about. No cherry picking involved at all.
You visited a site (PJ Media) that revels in cherry picking the info to favor the right / attack the left.


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We are not just talking about lying/concealing now are we pumpkin?
We have laws against intentionally harming another person. Shit we have laws from doing it by accident if you are found negligent. Think vehicular manslaughter. We have laws against smoking in bars. If we as a society can accept those laws but reject a law about knowingly infecting, or even intentionally putting someone at risk of contracting a deadly disease we are doing something wrong.
WHO ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW???

It is still illegal in California.
Are you complaining about the 38% of states (CA is not one of them) which have no such law regarding people with HIV not disclosing their status to sex partners?
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LOL, it's what the article is about. No cherry picking involved at all.
No the article is not about all the states that have NO laws concerning HIV disclosure. Thus, cherry picking is involved.
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NEWS would be admitting the legal landscape. Acknowledging ALL the state laws (and absence thereof).
The reality is that the 36% of states which have no laws are more problematic than the one that has moved it from "felony" to "misdemeanor".
And of those remaining 64%, do you have any clue (or appreciation) for how many have it as simple "misdemeanor"?

Propaganda is when you cherry pick one state to whine about, while ignoring all the other examples which aren't favorable...



You visited a site (PJ Media) that revels in cherry picking the info to favor the right / attack the left.
The last resort of the partisan is to pick at sources and not content. Ca changed it's law. You lose. Here's hoping you have sex with an infected party, then we can discuss how you "feel" about it
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As the 38% of states that don't have it as illegal.
California ain't one of them...
FYI that is not an argument. But if you think it is....here is my counter


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This table details state laws prohibiting sexual conduct between humans and animals. Most states (about 45) have some provision that criminalizes engaging in sexual conduct with animals. Hawaii, Kentucky, New Mexico, West Virginia and Wyoming, as well as the District of Columbia, do not have laws addressing this conduct.

States are somewhat split between categorizing*first offenses misdemeanors or felonies (24 misdemeanor,*21 felony, depending on*severity of conduct in*states like Nevada and Texas). One striking fact is the range of possible sentences under the laws. In Rhode Island, conviction results in imprisonment for not less than 7 years up to*20 years. Idaho gives*a sentence of not less than*5 years in state prison. Georgia also has a mandatory minimum of one year in jail up with a maximum of up to five. Massachusetts*leaves a*window of imprisonment that must not exceed*20 years.

While half of*states label the crime a misdemeanor, in some of those states, such as Kansas and Maine, the severity level*jumps to a felony if the actor causes or coerces*juveniles to engage in the activity or if the person has previous convictions of bestiality.

Notably, the legality of bestiality is not controlled from the federal level. The only relevant federal law is the sodomy law under the military code. This law provides that “[a]ny person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with . . . an animal is guilty of sodomy.” 10 U.S.C.A. § 925. The penalty is derived through court martial. As one might expect, the statute applies only to military personnel.
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No the article is not about all the states that have NO laws concerning HIV disclosure. Thus, cherry picking is involved.
In your mind. Oh well.
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WHO ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW???


I am sorry that you don't know. I will repost the OP so you can get up to speed

It is still illegal in California.
Are you complaining about the 38% of states (CA is not one of them) which have no such law regarding people with HIV not disclosing their status to sex partners?
Why would i be doing that?



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Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill Friday that lowers from a felony to a misdemeanor the crime of knowingly exposing a sexual partner to HIV without disclosing the infection. The measure also applies to those who give blood without telling the blood bank that they are HIV-positive.

Modern medicine allows those with HIV to live longer lives and nearly eliminates the possibility of transmission, according to state Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) and Assemblyman Todd Gloria (D-San Diego), authors of the bill.

“Today California took a major step toward treating HIV as a public health issue, instead of treating people living with HIV as criminals,” Wiener said in a statement. “HIV should be treated like all other serious infectious diseases, and that’s what SB 239 does.”


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