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Old October 10th, 2017, 11:25 AM   #11
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Why do Americans honour him in the first place ?
He played no part in the history of the USA
He didn't even land on the continent. He landed in modern-day Haiti/DR.
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Old October 10th, 2017, 11:38 AM   #12
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So yesterday there was a picture on some website showing the Dotard signing a document proclaiming it to be Columbus Day.

Is that done every year? I thought is was a standing holiday.

Plus other than federal workers, who else gets/takes the day off? I noticed the stock exchanges operated normally.
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Old October 10th, 2017, 11:59 AM   #13
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Yes, it's a federal holiday - yesterday's p.r. stunt was meaningless exercise in Barnumism...at least it didn't cost us a quarter of a million dollars like Pence's p.r. stunt at the football game.
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Old October 10th, 2017, 12:05 PM   #14
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What is your time limit for correcting the wrongs of "honoring" men who have committed atrocious acts against mankind or stand as symbol for same?
Because it then becomes the interpretation of future generations, which will be subjective, because they did not live in the era that memorialized these people.. What right do the people of today have to condemn the beliefs and standards of the postbellum South??....Who is here that lived the experiences of the 16th century??..... It's all just someone's opinion, that is all it is...

btw....I just received a huge bunch of American History magazine/books form the '60's to the '70's....And I just read an article on Columbus....He was a mother fucker...wiped out the Arawak Indian Tribe...
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Can you imagine the uproar if a Native American baker was told he had to make a cake for a celebration of Christopher Columbus day, or be charged with discrimination against Italians?
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Old October 10th, 2017, 12:14 PM   #16
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Why do Americans honour him in the first place ?
He played no part in the history of the USA
It creates a good reason for the Italians to tie on on....Sort of like St. Patrick's day for the Irish and Cinco de Mayo for the Mexicans/Spanish

Columbus is credited with opening the great age of discovery in the Western Hemisphere.....Not that the explorers after him weren't a bunch of mother fuckers, but that is another story...
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Old October 10th, 2017, 12:23 PM   #17
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Because it then becomes the interpretation of future generations, which will be subjective, because they did not live in the era that memorialized these people.. What right do the people of today have to condemn the beliefs and standards of the postbellum South??....Who is here that lived the experiences of the 16th century??..... It's all just someone's opinion, that is all it is...
Did you experience it? So then why do you care?

We have a right to condemn it because we know it was wrong.

And this wasn't 16th Century. There are people still alive from the Nadir who lived through race riots.
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It creates a good reason for the Italians to tie on on....Sort of like St. Patrick's day for the Irish and Cinco de Mayo for the Mexicans/Spanish

Columbus is credited with opening the great age of discovery in the Western Hemisphere.....Not that the explorers after him weren't a bunch of mother fuckers, but that is another story...
Since when do they need a good reason?
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Old October 10th, 2017, 12:30 PM   #19
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Did you experience it? So then why do you care?
I really don't give a shit about Columbus

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We have a right to condemn it because we know it was wrong.
It's wrong by Today's standards.....How do you know that what you are taking for granted and revere today might not be reviled by generations a couple of hundred years from now??
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Old October 10th, 2017, 12:34 PM   #20
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I really don't give a shit about Columbus
Idk what this has to do with my post, or the post I responded to but ok.

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It's wrong by Today's standards.....How do you know that what you are taking for granted and revere today might not be reviled by generations a couple of hundred years from now??
It was wrong then too. Slavery/genocide is objectively wrong, and there were people who knew it was wrong back then. Therefore, if we know it's wrong now, why are we "celebrating" it?

Was the Holocaust right because people thought it was right? This is piss poor logic.
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