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Old October 10th, 2017, 11:20 AM   #31
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Ditto!

mur·der
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noun: murder; plural noun: murders

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the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
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You can read right, yeah I know it says unlawful. So SCOTUS made a huge mistake, imagine that. They will be held accountable, yeah I know you don't believe, I don't care. Your belief is not necessary for God to exist.
And your belief in God doesn't make him exist.
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Old October 10th, 2017, 11:47 AM   #32
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So you don't know what sentience means either.
I know that you are unqualified to tell me when that happens, God knows though ask him. When what you call a clump of cells comes out as anything but a baby let me know! Screw your scientific labels it's a baby!
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And your belief in God doesn't make him exist.
Right, he exists whether I, or you, or anyone else believes, thanks for clearing that up!
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Old October 10th, 2017, 11:49 AM   #34
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I know that you are unqualified to tell me when that happens, God knows though ask him. When what you call a clump of cells comes out as anything but a baby let me know! Screw your scientific labels it's a baby!
The right wing in a nutshell. "Screw your scientific labels". That's the motto of the Dotard's Administration, isn't it?
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Old October 10th, 2017, 11:49 AM   #35
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No they don't. I won't accept his ideas because they are, IMO, wrong. Big, big difference there.

I won't accept his ideas because they are the result of an irrational belief in myths.

I won't accept his ideas because they make the world less of a place I want my children to live in.
To him yours are wrong, it's exactly the same thing. Exactly.
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I know that you are unqualified to tell me when that happens, God knows though ask him. When what you call a clump of cells comes out as anything but a baby let me know! Screw your scientific labels it's a baby!
I had three that came out as a clump of cells.

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To him yours are wrong, it's exactly the same thing. Exactly.
Not at all. I have rational reasons for mine. He has superstition and myths.
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Not at all. I have rational reasons for mine. He has superstition and myths.
In your opinion.
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I read a follow up article in which the judge denied giving the father joint custody, it was visitation rights.

The whole mess started when the young single mother applied for welfare and was required to sue the father for support. A DNA test was performed and the rapist father was confirmed.
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People who are on food stamps but can work if they chose to, yep can't stand em. People down on their luck, lost a job, raped and decided not to abort, sure I will help.
I judged the Judge not her!
Do you understand the judge is simply working within the existing laws of the land?
The right loves to whine with propagandic claims of "legislating from the bench". But custody rights in the Michigan have no aspect whereby the father being guilty of the rape impacts the custody of the child.

The PROPER fix for this is to fix the laws in Michigan (and the other states which are likewise afflicted).


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Nope, wasn't talking about this case, I am ok with her getting some help, I am appalled at the Judge did, granting the pedophile rapist any consideration in custody!
So why bring it up in this thread if you weren't talking about this case?
And why did it take me to ask you before you admit that?


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You're barking up the wrong tree if you think that I'll support abortion. Abortion is murder and my Church affirms this throughout its teachings. Murdering another human being is not kindness. Kindness, I think, would be assisting the mother in raising her child.
I never said you would support abortion.
Some people are happy to oppose abortion and then not give a rat's ass what happens after the child is born. That's a problem.

Do you fail to appreciate that this little girl could have aborted and then she would be saved all this crap? She was raped when she was very young. She has been helping to raise this child ever since.
Is it any wonder she has difficulty caring for the child without assistance since she has had a huge chunk of her childhood removed so that she could care for this child?

Some people need to learn some compassion.
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