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Old October 11th, 2017, 11:58 AM   #71
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You just proved my point on regressives excusing the shooting.
No. Seriously no.
Just because somebody recognizes that apples are not oranges and is able to explain why does not automatically mean that they think one should be shot while the other shouldn't.


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And did I specify regressives on DTT?
You're not going to show ANY regressives who did as you claim, are you...



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Um well sure, except they BOTH ran away.
And like the fliers weren't being put up in the store, the gay couple wasn't going to have their wedding in the bakery either.
Right?


As has already been explained, simply running away is not sufficient justification for such lethal force.

But don't take my word for it...
Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)[2], is a civil case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that, under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, he or she may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless "the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." It was found that use of deadly force to prevent escape is an unreasonable seizure under the Fourth Amendment, in the absence of probable cause that the fleeing suspect posed a physical danger.[1]:563-7
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Old October 11th, 2017, 12:20 PM   #72
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Do yourself a favor and talk more about the topic and less about what you think about other posters...

I never said you think the shootings were justified.
My statement was: "This crap where some people think it's justified to shoot somebody just for running is mind-boggling.

The post before that involved replying to multiple people.
You made a silly comment while taking a post out of context.
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You're an idiot and I don't have time to deal with you today. Buzz off.
Honey you didn't read it and it made you look silly. 16 out 29 said they thought he'd put them up after he'd been shot.

Sorry, read your sources or I'll make you look silly.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 12:24 PM   #74
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No. Seriously no.
Just because somebody recognizes that apples are not oranges and is able to explain why does not automatically mean that they think one should be shot while the other shouldn't.



You're not going to show ANY regressives who did as you claim, are you...




And like the fliers weren't being put up in the store, the gay couple wasn't going to have their wedding in the bakery either.
Right?


As has already been explained, simply running away is not sufficient justification for such lethal force.

But don't take my word for it...
Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)[2], is a civil case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that, under the Fourth Amendment, when a law enforcement officer is pursuing a fleeing suspect, he or she may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless "the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others." It was found that use of deadly force to prevent escape is an unreasonable seizure under the Fourth Amendment, in the absence of probable cause that the fleeing suspect posed a physical danger.[1]:563-7
These only reason to post this as you did was to make the point that you thought I thought it was "justified".
Sorry, pay attention to how you type.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 01:28 PM   #75
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Remember that black woman, Miriam Carey, who made a wrong turn near the White House, then fled, and the police shot her dead rather than block her car in after a chase. Remember how the left approved of that.
Carey tried to ram through White House security gates. She used her car as a weapon and struck a Secret Service member. She fled, hitting speeds around 80 mph down Pennsylvania Ave., ignoring orders to stop. Security vehicles manage to stop her at Garfield Circle. She slammed the car into reverse, hitting a police car. As she drove away, officers fired at her.

Police took off in hot pursuit. Finally, she crashed into some security barriers. More gunfire. End of chase.

And you compare this to an unarmed guy on a bicycle with no rear red reflector who took off running and was shot in the back three times about ten feet from the shooter.

Maybe it's time to change your air cleaner if you think the two incidents are comparable in any way.
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Old October 11th, 2017, 01:48 PM   #76
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Carey tried to ram through White House security gates. She used her car as a weapon and struck a Secret Service member. She fled, hitting speeds around 80 mph down Pennsylvania Ave., ignoring orders to stop. Security vehicles manage to stop her at Garfield Circle. She slammed the car into reverse, hitting a police car. As she drove away, officers fired at her.

Police took off in hot pursuit. Finally, she crashed into some security barriers. More gunfire. End of chase.

And you compare this to an unarmed guy on a bicycle with no rear red reflector who took off running and was shot in the back three times about ten feet from the shooter.

Maybe it's time to change your air cleaner if you think the two incidents are comparable in any way.
Changing the air cleaner won't fix it. That needs a major overhaul.
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These only reason to post this as you did was to make the point that you thought I thought it was "justified".
Sorry, pay attention to how you type.
So I guess you just jump from failing to understand the message to being a mind-reader, dontcha...


a) I never claimed you thought it was justified.
b) When people start automatically assuming people are saying things because they think it is diametrically opposed to the other person, that's where communication breaks down.
I am not doing that to you.
Don't do that to others...


And finally...
c) Do you ever stop to look at your posts and realize that your comments have divorced themselves from the topic? Instead of topical comments, you're more talking about other people or how they post or your fantasies about why they are posting?
You should try it sometime...
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You just proved my point on regressives excusing the shooting.

And did I specify regressives on DTT?

There was a wrong turn at the White House, she then fled.
Nah, you just pretty much proved you're a troll.
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Um well sure, except they BOTH ran away.
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You make no sense at all but then you usually don't
Just going to pretend that SCOTUS never happened, huh? ...
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