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Old October 12th, 2017, 01:31 PM   #21
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I know you are joking.....BUT....using the same logic, Texas and Florida should have known THEY were going to get hammered, but we don't hear Prez Dotard saying "WE can't keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in Texas and Florida forever!"

DO WE???

Does Donny KNOW these people are Americans? Has anyone bothered to tell him??
Do they pay federal taxes?
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Old October 12th, 2017, 01:36 PM   #22
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Do they pay federal taxes?
I asked this question on Facebook and was given a link to a site which explained their taxation system.

They don't pay a federal income tax that is as basic as ours. But, they do have a complicated system of taxation that pays into the federal government. And, unlike states, part of their sales tax - which is higher than any state in the U.S. - goes to the U.S. government.
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Old October 12th, 2017, 01:47 PM   #23
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Do they pay federal taxes?
If you are a full time resident and do not work for the US Government or make money outside of Puerto Rico, you do not pay federal income taxes.

They are Puerto Ricans citizens first, and US citizens second. Their own Supreme Court confirmed that. They can renounce US citizenship and still enjoy all the privileges of PR citizenship. They can also claim Spanish citizenship.

Basically, they want independence but wish to retain US entitlements.
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Old October 12th, 2017, 02:28 PM   #24
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Do they pay federal taxes?
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They’re American taxpayers. They pay payroll taxes, business taxes, and estate taxes. They helped pay for disaster relief in Texas after Hurricane Harvey and in Florida after Hurricane Irma.
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Old October 12th, 2017, 05:43 PM   #26
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Trump's true colors are on full display regarding Puerto Rico. As he tweets that we can't help PR "forever," just under 90 percent of the islanders remain without power. Worse, serious food and water shortages exist, a slow-moving but inexorable crisis in the making.
The water situation is so dire, the Environmental Protection Agency said in a news release Wednesday, that residents on the island have reportedly been trying to obtain water from Superfund sites -- which are bodies of water contaminated by hazardous waste. The EPA advised against "tampering with sealed and locked wells or drinking from these wells, as it may be dangerous to people's health."
Donald Trump: We cannot aid Puerto Rico 'forever' - CNNPolitics

And while admonishing PR that disaster assistance won't last "forever," he tweets:
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Nobody could have done what I’ve done for #PuertoRico with so little appreciation. So much work!
It's always all about Donald, who is in the process of seriously degrading what it means to be an American.
Puerto Rico: US officials privately acknowledge serious food shortage

• US government providing 200,000 meals a day to meet needs of 2m people
• ‘There is no urgency in the government response to this humanitarian crisis’


...Federal officials privately admit there is a massive shortage of meals in Puerto Rico three weeks after Hurricane Maria devastated the island.

Officials at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) say that the government and its partners are only providing 200,000 meals a day to meet the needs of more than 2 million people. That is a daily shortfall of between 1.8m and 5.8m meals.

“We are 1.8 million meals short,” said one senior Fema official. “That is why we need the urgency. And it’s not going away. We’re doing this much today, but it has to be sustained over several months.”

The scale of the food crisis dwarfs the more widely publicized challenges of restoring power and communications....

...On its website, Fema says it has provided “millions of meals and millions of liters of water”.

In fact many of those meals are military ready-to-eat meals that civilians find hard to digest if consumed for more than a few days.

Now the biggest provider of cooked meals says Fema is putting its operations at risk of closure.

World Central Kitchen, founded by chef José Andrés, cooks and distributes 90,000 meals a day through a network of local chefs and kitchens.

Its Fema contract, to provide just 20,000 meals a day, ended on Tuesday. Fema insists it is bound by federal rules that mean it will take several weeks for a new contract to emerge to feed more Americans.


“There is no urgency in the government response to this humanitarian crisis,” Andrés said. “They have all the officials and armed guards at headquarters, but they have no information about the island. They don’t even have a map they can share about who needs food. Fema is over-paying and it is under-delivering.”

According to Donald Trump, his own response to the disaster in Puerto Rico has been exceptional.

“Nobody could have done what I’ve done for Puerto Rico with so little appreciation. So much work!” he tweeted on Sunday. The tweet was posted along with a White House video of helicopters and trucks in Puerto Rico, and a title card saying, “What the fake news media will not show you in Puerto Rico.”
More: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...urricane-maria
The USS Comfort is in dock there, and currently only has 8 patients aboard while people are dying of water borne bacterial diseases in hospitals on the island.
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I asked this question on Facebook and was given a link to a site which explained their taxation system.

They don't pay a federal income tax that is as basic as ours. But, they do have a complicated system of taxation that pays into the federal government. And, unlike states, part of their sales tax - which is higher than any state in the U.S. - goes to the U.S. government.
Contrary to popular belief, Puerto Ricans pay federal income tax. Puerto Ricans do not pay state income tax because they are not a State. The infrastructure of Puerto Rico was in deep decline before Maria. Puerto Rico is in a Hurricane Zone and if you want to live in a Hurricane Zone, so be it but have to suffer the slings and arrows. Will those people never learn?
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Contrary to popular belief, Puerto Ricans pay federal income tax. Puerto Ricans do not pay state income tax because they are not a State.
You got it wrong. If you reside full time in Puerto Rico and do not work for the US Government or make income outside of Puerto Rico, you do not pay federal income tax. What you do pay is Federal PAYROLL taxes, such as Social Security and Medicare, which are later recovered when you reach retirement age. Payroll taxes are for one's own future benefit and IMO should not be called taxes. That would be like calling your 401K investment "taxes".

They also do pay our version of State taxes. Only it is called Commonwealth taxes.
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Do they pay federal taxes?
That matters exactly zero.

They are US citizens.

They are protected by the Constitution of the United States.

The Presidents first responsability is protecting the citizens of the United States.

This is an impeachable offense. Among others.
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Old October 12th, 2017, 06:28 PM   #30
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Thanks. Racism isn't a part of this discussion.

Elitism is.

"Would you drink it? Really? I wouldn't."

Fat-assed elitism, raw.

Maybe you should share that w/ tris before you start chastising others as he is the one who keeps interjecting race into the conversation.


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It's their own damn fault.

If they were white they could have all the help they needed.
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Well, Puerto Ricans are like Americans - they come in all colors LOL. But, multi-generational Puerto Ricans are brown - like Hispanics. Some people consider Mexicans white, too - but not the Republicans, nor Trump and the Trumpanzees.
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