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Old October 14th, 2017, 05:46 AM   #1
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Trump Declares War on the Constitution

Trump Declares War on the Constitution


Donald Trump is to conservatism as SpaghettiOs are to Italian food: a distant, crude and almost unrecognizable cousin. But last year, many conservatives who had trouble rationalizing a vote for Donald Trump settled on one decisive reason. Justices appointed by President Hillary Clinton, they said, could not be trusted to faithfully follow the Constitution.

These strict constructionists now find themselves with a president who regards the nation's founding document as something between an irrelevance and a wad of gum stuck to his shoe. On Wednesday, he uttered statements that would have shocked conservatives had they come from Clinton or Barack Obama but were taken as inconsequential coming from Trump.

The president was angry with NBC News because it reported he had proposed a huge increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal. He fumed that it is "frankly disgusting the way the press is able to write whatever they want to write" and threatened to punish the network by revoking its license to broadcast (though licenses, as he probably doesn't know, are granted to stations, not networks).

Trump has held up the late Antonin Scalia as his model of a justice. Scalia disdained the idea of a "living Constitution" -- whose meaning evolves over time. "The only good Constitution is a dead Constitution," he declared.

If Trump had his way, the Constitution would be deader than the czars, though not quite in the way Scalia meant. When the president swore an oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States," he took it just as seriously as the debts he escaped in bankruptcy court.

Trump would start by amputating the First Amendment, which upholds the disgusting freedom of journalists to "write whatever they want to write." This is the same president who invited violence against reporters by tweeting a video doctored to make it look like he was punching a CNN representative.

Press freedom extends to broadcast news media, which are entitled to report and comment without government interference. To suggest that the president has the authority to punish allegedly inaccurate reporting by silencing a news organization betrays gargantuan ignorance and childish petulance.

But Trump's empty threat flowed naturally from his past pronouncements on such matters. During the campaign, he vowed to change libel laws to make it easier for the likes of him -- loudmouthed, grossly dishonest public figures -- to win libel suits.

His position is at war with one of the Supreme Court's most important and unassailable decisions, reached in 1964. It said the First Amendment requires that citizens be able to express their views without fear of being punished for inadvertent misstatements. If Trump were thinking clearly, he would realize that existing libel law is his friend, because it immunizes him for his fraudulent claims about critics.

His three orders on foreigners traveling to the United States so obviously stemmed from his campaign vow to ban all Muslims that administration lawyers implored judges to forget everything he had previously said. The judges didn't. The first two travel orders were ruled unconstitutional, and the latest is being challenged.

He and Attorney General Jeff Sessions have spurned the January Justice Department report that found Chicago police guilty of "pattern or practice of unconstitutional use of force" -- including killing people without a good reason. Barack Obama's Justice Department wanted to prevent these abuses through a consent decree. Sessions has no interest in fixing or even noticing such problems.

He flaunted his indifference in a memo rejecting corrective action: "It is not the responsibility of the federal government to manage non-federal law enforcement agencies." Actually, when they violate the federal Constitution, it is.

What are the responsibilities of the federal government, according to Sessions? To "promote officer safety, officer morale and public respect for their work." If the point wasn't clear enough, Trump told an audience of police officers in New York they should rough up suspects they arrest.

That was too much for a lot of police departments. The New York City police commissioner objected: "To suggest that police officers apply any standard in the use of force other than what is reasonable and necessary is irresponsible, unprofessional and sends the wrong message to law enforcement as well as the public."

Trump's supporters feared that if Clinton were elected, constitutional rights would be damaged over time by a liberal Supreme Court. Instead, they got a president who prefers to damage them immediately all by himself.

By Steve Chapman / Oct 14, 2017 12:01 AM

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Old October 14th, 2017, 06:10 AM   #2
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I honestly don't believe he's ever read the document.
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Old October 14th, 2017, 08:30 AM   #3
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There is a fallacy that is part of American political thought.
"Why can't we get a businessman, a guy who knows how to make things work, to straighten out the mess we have in Washington/the State Capitol"

And we try it every now and then, but it never seems to work.

Because it's a whole different skill set.
You might as well ask "Why not get a Businessman who knows how things work, to coach the Redskins?"

Generally these fabled successful businessmen are focused on a small area of the economy, and they have near dictatorial powers, they hire, fire, set policy by their whim alone, they can turn on a dime, sell off a division, buy out a competitor, and maybe the big things need a nod from a board stacked with their biggest fans.
Being president or governor comes with limited powers, you can't hire, you can nominate, you depend on a process to get your hires confirmed that can be divisive.
You can promote policy from the bully pulpit, but it must be enacted by legislatures that contain people who are opposed to you, and who each have their own agendas.

If you want to build an office building or a hotel, and you encounter opposition, you can drop it, and move on to another deal in another city.
The president has one world to deal with, lot's of players, and they don't go away.

You can't say "This North Korea thing is going nowhere, let's negotiate a deal on Canadian Maple Syrup instead, I think we can win that one..."

That's why so many businessmen have declined to run, because they realized that it would not be a happy term in the White House.
I don't think Trump ever thought it through, I think he really believed he could order McConnell and Ryan to produce a fabulous health plan that cost less, insured more people, that was clearly superior to ObamaCare, and put it on his desk.
And he'd sign it to the applause of millions of happy Americans, thrilled to be getting more for less.
I think he believed if he talked tough, the Iranians and the North Koreans would back down and sign "better deals".
That Mexico would pay for the wall.

I wonder when he is going to realize that none of that is going to happen?

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There is a fallacy the is part of American political thought.
"Why can't we get a businessman, a guy who knows how to make things work, to straighten out the mess we have in Washington/the State Capitol"

And we try it every now and then, but it never seems to work.

Because it's a whole different skill set.
You might as well ask "Why not get a Businessman who knows how things work, to coach the Redskins?"

Generally these fabled successful businessmen are focused on a small area of the economy, and they have near dictatorial powers, they hire, fire, set policy by their whim alone, they can turn on a dime, sell off a division, buy out a competitor, and maybe the big things need a nod from a board stacked with their biggest fans.
Being president or governor comes with limited powers, you can't hire, you can nominate, you depend on a process to get your hires confirmed that can be divisive.
You can promote policy from the bully pulpit, but it must be enacted by legislatures that contain people who are opposed to you, and who each have their own agendas.

If you want to build an office building or a hotel, and you encounter opposition, you can drop it, and move on to another deal in another city.
The president has one world to deal with, lot's of players, and they don't go away.

You can't say "This North Korea thing is going nowhere, let's negotiate a deal on Canadian Maple Syrup instead, I think we can win that one..."

That's why so many businessmen have declined to run, because they realized that it would not be a happy term in the White House.
I don't think Trump ever thought it through, I think he really believed he could order McConnell and Ryan to produce a fabulous health plan that cost less, insured more people, that was clearly superior to ObamaCare, and put it on his desk.
And he'd sign it to the applause of millions of happy Americans, thrilled to be getting more for less.
I think he believed if he talked tough, the Iranians and the North Koreans would back down and sign "better deals".
That Mexico would pay for the wall.

I wonder when he is going to realize that none of that is going to happen?

You are absolutely correct. The personality traits that make a good business man, and I don't see trump as a particularly good one, are not the same traits that make good politicians.

Unless you're a dictator, running a country requires a certain degree of compromise. Trump and the neocon's "my way or the highway" "winner takes all" attitude towards running the country are why they are failing, and failing miserably. Trump can't get along with his own staff, much less the 535 members of congress.
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I honestly don't believe he's ever read the document.


There's no doubt about that--at all. What he knows now is what his advisors tell him and it's a play as you go sort of deal.

Here's how the game is played: A crisis comes up. Trump calls in the players. They deal the cards and write the scripts. Then probably get out a map and say, "Mr. President, HERE (finger on map) is Cuba."

Dotard probably says, "Wow. That's pretty close to Florida. Is that (finger on map) Florida?" Trump WINS!! Players award lots of congratulatory comments.
So, Donny is getting closer to mastering geography.

Now, about the U.S. Constitution. THIS topic is trickier because although the president THINKS he knows the ins and outs, I suspect that soon we will be hearing things like "You know.....the constitution is a lot more complicated than I thought. I mean...like...it's yuge.....and like very, very hard to understand.....but with my excellent IQ and a few months of study I will understand it better than all the generals."
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A decade ago I'd have thought such article to be apocalyptic hyperbole; extreme satirical exaggeration.

Alarmingly, it isn't.
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Trump saying that there is reason to revoke a license is different than attempting to do it. For one thing the actual broadcasters have the license to broadcast not the network. So there is not a license to revoke. So what exactly is the problem? That he postulates on removing something that is not there or is it that these NEWS programs are whole cloth making crap up? There is no "Trump paying prostitutes in Moscow to pee on him". Its completely made up. There is not doctrine to increase nuclear weapons 10 fold. Its made up crap. Its lies. This is the real issue. News broadcasters have a license to practice ethical journalism. Instead its complete fabrication.
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Trump saying that there is reason to revoke a license is different than attempting to do it. For one thing the actual broadcasters have the license to broadcast not the network. So there is not a license to revoke. So what exactly is the problem? That he postulates on removing something that is not there or is it that these NEWS programs are whole cloth making crap up? There is no "Trump paying prostitutes in Moscow to pee on him". Its completely made up. There is not doctrine to increase nuclear weapons 10 fold. Its made up crap. Its lies. This is the real issue. News broadcasters have a license to practice ethical journalism. Instead its complete fabrication.
The First Amendment appeared before a “regulated militia” for a reason. To threaten the press because they are not reporting what the fool wants is abysmal. He calls Russian interference with our election fake news even though it has been widely attributed to our intelligence community and Republican controlled Congressional scrutiny. You deflect with your FOX talking points.
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The First Amendment appeared before a “regulated militia” for a reason. To threaten the press because they are not reporting what the fool wants is abysmal. ..
I applaud him for talking about the lies in the Press. He is allowed to have free speech protected by the first amendment just like everybody else. He can say his opinion, and you can say yours. Frankly I think the President should sue the networks for the whole "Russian prostitutes" thing. That was outright slander.
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I applaud him for talking about the lies in the Press. He is allowed to have free speech protected by the first amendment just like everybody else. He can say his opinion, and you can say yours. Frankly I think the President should sue the networks for the whole "Russian prostitutes" thing. That was outright slander.
He retweets FOX all the time. They invented fake news. He is the king of fake news including his birtherism stunt. He accused Cruz’s father of being involved in the Kennedy assasination. This asshole’s bullshit only works with his robots. The free press will continue to report on this fools unfitness for office.
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