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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:09 AM   #31
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What specific wording is it that you think compels by formal legally binding agreement the U.S. military to defend the sovereignty of a non-NATO member nation?
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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:10 AM   #32
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IF someone is going to cry about Russia taking Crimea and does nothing to stop it one shouldn't whine about it. Yes, Obama ALLOWED Putin to take it.
Support a War? No, fight a war? Sometimes it's unavoidable, we made a promise to them and Obama reneged on it. We gave the Kurds our word and Bush reneged on it.

Had the Ukranian's held on to their weapons the tanks wouldn't have rolled at all.
Answer the question please. Would you have supported Obama ordering the U.S. military to attack Russia?
The tanks are rolling what do you order done?

What? Aren't you saying that the sanctions placed on Russia over the Crimea invasion constitutes "whining?" Well, if diplomatic pressure and sanctions are just 'whining' in your book what's left other than aggressive military action?
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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:11 AM   #33
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"Ukraine, and Belarus and Kazakhstan, were sitting on some formidable nuclear arsenals. Ukraine's was the third largest in the world.

The idea, I suppose, was the world didn't need a bunch of new nuclear powers with the USSR's break-up.

The mood was optimistic. The Cold War was over. The Russians, henceforth, would be good guys.

Things don't always work out as planned." it #30
And water is wet.

What is the WORDING of this alleged military obligation? The WORDING !?
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Old November 12th, 2017, 08:30 AM   #34
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Nicely stated;

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There's nothing "America First" about taking the word of KGB colonel over US intelligence community. There's no "principled realism" in cooperating w/ Russia to prop up murderous Assad regime. To believe otherwise is naive & places nat'l security at risk.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 09:21 AM   #35
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What specific wording is it that you think compels by formal legally binding agreement the U.S. military to defend the sovereignty of a non-NATO member nation?
The agreement was informal, so the answer to your question is "nothing."
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Old November 12th, 2017, 09:23 AM   #36
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And water is wet.

What is the WORDING of this alleged military obligation? The WORDING !?
Here's the text: https://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/publ...34-35_4108.pdf
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Old November 12th, 2017, 09:30 AM   #37
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Fine.

Q #32's exaggerated rhetoric:
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merely pseudo-critical bluster.

Its author apparently doesn't understand the fundamental powers and limitations of U.S. military authority.

It's a child-like world-view that's not appropriate to adult fora such as these.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 10:23 AM   #38
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Mueller Immediately Closes Investigation After Hearing Putin Proclaim His Innocence!

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The special counsel Robert Mueller announced on Saturday that he was closing the Justice Department’s Russia investigation, “effective immediately,” after hearing that President Vladimir Putin, of Russia, said he was innocent of any election meddling.
Moments after learning about Putin’s assertion, Mueller hastily assembled his staff of investigators to inform them that, now that Putin had fully exonerated himself, there was no point in continuing the probe.
“Vladimir Putin says he did nothing,” Mueller told his staff. “That’s good enough for me.”
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As for his future plans, Mueller said that his first order of business was to write a heartfelt letter of apology to Putin.
“I feel terrible knowing that I’ve spent all this time investigating a person who did absolutely nothing wrong,” he said. “Hindsight is 20/20, but I really should have called him first and asked him what really happened.”


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Old November 12th, 2017, 10:34 AM   #39
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Back peddler-in-Chief has done it again.

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President Donald Trump appears to have rowed back on comments suggesting he believed the Russian president's denials of meddling in the US election.

He was widely criticised after saying Vladimir Putin had been insulted by the allegations of Russian interference.

On Sunday, Mr Trump clarified that he supported US intelligence agencies, who have long concluded that Russia tried to sway the 2016 poll in his favour.
Trump backs US spy agencies after Putin meddling remark - BBC News
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Old November 12th, 2017, 10:54 AM   #40
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The Appeaser in Chief has to be told what to say. When he speaks on his own, it is very clear that he cares more about delegitimizing the Russia investigation to protect his own ass than he cares about the country. He is a treasonous, appeasing, apologist bastard IMO.
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