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Old November 28th, 2017, 11:49 AM   #1
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Some have questioned the mental ability

and declared psychological issues with President Trump. Thought this was interesting...so...

In the paragraphs below, Dr. Keith Abelow, psychiatrist, provides his opinions on this subject.



Let me issue the standard disclaimer of psychiatrists who discuss the mental health of public figures: I have not personally examined President Trump.


-Now, let me put to rest the concerns of Sen. Al Franken and political commentators John Oliver and Andrew Sullivan and anyone else who publicly or privately has questioned the President’s sanity: Donald Trump is stone cold sane.


-When a man acquires billions of dollars through complex real estate transactions, invests in many countries, goes on to phenomenal success in television and turns his name into a worldwide brand, it is very unlikely that he is mentally unstable.



-When the same man obviously enjoys the love and respect of his children and his wife, who seem to rely on him for support and guidance, it is extraordinarily unlikely that he is mentally unstable.



-When the same man walks into the political arena and deftly defeats 16 Republican opponents and then the Democratic heir-apparent to a two-term President’s administration, the odds of that man being mentally unstable become vanishingly thin.


-And when that very same man attracts to his team the kind of intellect and gravitas represented (to name just a few) by Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Dr Ben Carson, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Secretary of Defense James Mattis, a retired Marine Corps general and commander of the U.S. Central Command, he cannot be mentally deranged. Period.

It is a statistical impossibility.


-Those who assert otherwise are political opportunists, or fools, or both (and I am thinking here, in particular, of Sen. Franken).


-President Trump is the first human being to win this nation’s highest office without having held any other political office or serving as a general. Most political pundits thought his quest was pure folly.



-Most journalists assessed his chances as zero. So who was laboring under quasi-delusional thinking ?



-If you’re still worried about the mental stability of the President, note this: The stock market doesn’t like instability. Investors, en masse, can take the measure of a man pretty darn well. The stock market has hit record high after record high since Trump’s election, and if you think that’s an accident, or that investors have all been fooled, it’s time to start wondering about your own capacity for rational thought.
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Old November 28th, 2017, 12:05 PM   #2
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How about Mrs. #1 and Mrs. #2?

You're sure you want the pyramid grain storage expert in that list. How about Bannon and the others bailing so soon?

Or the senior admin officials calling the Republican President a f**king moron?

The guy should have thought this through a bit more thoroughly.

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Keith Russell Ablow is an American psychiatrist, author, and television personality. He is also a contributor on psychiatry for Fox News Channel and TheBlaze. Ablow resigned as a member of the American Psychiatric Association in 2011.
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Ha ha...that’s funny.........Abelow is a well know FOX crank who has made ridiculous statements in the past. Do you really expect anyone to read his crap ?
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A simple google search regarding this topic turns quite a few articles and a few books that give a better picture of the actual expert assessments of the TrumpsterFire's mental state that the FauxNews contributor's bullshit in the OP....

Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference | The Independent
The Independent › uk › news › world- Apr 21, 2017 - Donald Trump has a “dangerous mental illness” and is not fit to lead the US, a group of psychiatrists has warned during a conference at Yale University. Mental health experts claimed the President was “paranoid and delusional”, and said it was their “ethical...Mental health professionals ...Openly questioning Donald ...

Donald Trump's malignant narcissism is toxic: Psychologist - USA Today
USA Today › opinion › 2017/05/04 › tr...May 4, 2017 - If you take President Trump's words literally, you have no choice but to conclude that he is ... of malignant narcissism, argues that it “lies on the borderline between sanity and insanity.

Petition Declaring Trump Mentally Ill Pushes for Signers | Psychology Today
Psychology Today › blog › me-we › peti...Aug 7, 2017 - Group gathers nearly 60000 signatures from mental health professionals calling for removing Donald Trump from office due to "serious mental illness."

Shrinks Define Dangers of Trump Presidency | Psychology Today
Psychology Today › blog › brainstormApr 20, 2017 - At a conference at Yale, psychiatrists and psychologists begin carving out a new role to combat the gaslighting of America by Donald Trump.

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President: Bandy X. Lee, Robert Jay Lifton, Gail Sheehy, William J. Doherty, Noam ...
Amazon.com › Dangerous-Case-Donald-... ... More than two dozen psychiatrists and psychologists offer their consensus view that Trump's mental state presents a clear and present danger to our nation and individual well-being ...

Psychiatry experts claim that Trump is unfit for presidency due to 'dangerous mental illness' – TheBlaze
TheBlaze › news › 2017/04/24 › psychia...Apr 24, “As some prominent psychiatrists have noted, [Trump's mental health] is the elephant in the room ... Dr. John Gartner, a psychotherapist and previous resident adviser at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, told his fellow psychiatrists in attendance that: “We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump’s dangerous mental illness." ...
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Best thing to do is to ignore this pitiful troll's posts, but report them so the mods can handle him. Don't engage, it just encourages creatures like that.
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Any psychiatrist who comments on another person's mental health, without having interviewed them, personally, is un-professional..
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Any psychiatrist who comments on another person's mental health, without having interviewed them, personally, is un-professional..


I agree, Jim....but I think most of us are still TRYING to figure out this boy president.
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Any psychiatrist who comments on another person's mental health, without having interviewed them, personally, is un-professional..
So some have said....but opinions among mental health professionals differ on that point.

A rift among experts over analyzing Trump's mental health
CNN
By Jen Christensen, CNN
July 26, 2017
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The American Psychoanalytic Association represents about 3,500 members from all mental health professions and academia. It polled its leadership in June and asked whether they continued to support the association's existing policy, that it "speaks to sociopolitical issues only, not about political figures."

According to an association memo from July 6, all the leaders that answered the poll voted to keep existing policy. But, the memo continues, as far as members go, they are "free to comment about political figures as individuals." That means if individual experts want to share their thoughts about the President's behavior, for example, they are free to do so as "APsaA does not consider political commentary by its individual members an ethical matter. APsaA's ethical code concerns clinical practice, not public commentary," the memo states.

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Psychiatrists Debate Weighing in on Trump's Mental Health
Scientific American
By Catherine Caruso
February 15, 2017
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In recent months a growing number of mental health experts and members of the media have offered opinions on Pres. Donald Trump’s psychiatric fitness. On Tuesday 35 U.S. psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers signed a letter to the editor of The New York Times warning about Trump’s mental health. Its signatories state—despite a self-imposed ethics rule forbidding psychiatrists from offering professional opinions about public figures they have not personally evaluated — they “believe that the grave emotional instability indicated by Mr. Trump’s speech and actions makes him incapable of serving safely as president. A number of petitions, including a Change.org petition started by psychologist John Gartner that has garnered more than 20,000 signatures, have called for the chief executive to be removed from office on the grounds he is mentally ill and unfit to perform the duties of president.

The mental health professionals writing in the Times felt compelled to speak out: We fear that too much is at stake to be silent any longer. Susan Radant, a psychoanalyst and clinical psychologist and director of the Seattle Psychoanalytic Society and Institute, says she was motivated to sign by her worries about Trump’s competence, including his emotional stability, integrity and honesty. I am hoping this letter will inspire both citizens and, particularly, the Congress to do their jobs,” she wrote in an e-mail, “and step in before our country and the world are permanently damaged. Radant thinks it is time to get rid of the Goldwater rule. She says mental health professionals are well qualified to offer certain diagnoses from a distance, pointing out the press, sans training, freely makes such assessments. Fellow signatory Alexandra Rolde, a psychiatrist affiliated with Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and Newton–Wellesley Hospital, both in Massachusetts, emphasizes the letter does not attempt to diagnose Trump but rather highlights personality traits she and her colleagues find concerning. She does not believe any mental health professional should make a diagnosis without seeing a patient, but thinks it can still be appropriate to comment on how a person’s mental health may affect other people and his or her ability to perform.

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So some have said....but opinions among mental health professionals differ on that point.

A rift among experts over analyzing Trump's mental health
CNN
By Jen Christensen, CNN
July 26, 2017
(excerpt)
The American Psychoanalytic Association represents about 3,500 members from all mental health professions and academia. It polled its leadership in June and asked whether they continued to support the association's existing policy, that it "speaks to sociopolitical issues only, not about political figures."

According to an association memo from July 6, all the leaders that answered the poll voted to keep existing policy. But, the memo continues, as far as members go, they are "free to comment about political figures as individuals." That means if individual experts want to share their thoughts about the President's behavior, for example, they are free to do so as "APsaA does not consider political commentary by its individual members an ethical matter. APsaA's ethical code concerns clinical practice, not public commentary," the memo states.

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Psychiatrists Debate Weighing in on Trump's Mental Health
Scientific American
By Catherine Caruso
February 15, 2017
(excerpts)
In recent months a growing number of mental health experts and members of the media have offered opinions on Pres. Donald Trump’s psychiatric fitness. On Tuesday 35 U.S. psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers signed a letter to the editor of The New York Times warning about Trump’s mental health. Its signatories state—despite a self-imposed ethics rule forbidding psychiatrists from offering professional opinions about public figures they have not personally evaluated — they “believe that the grave emotional instability indicated by Mr. Trump’s speech and actions makes him incapable of serving safely as president. A number of petitions, including a Change.org petition started by psychologist John Gartner that has garnered more than 20,000 signatures, have called for the chief executive to be removed from office on the grounds he is mentally ill and unfit to perform the duties of president.

The mental health professionals writing in the Times felt compelled to speak out: We fear that too much is at stake to be silent any longer. Susan Radant, a psychoanalyst and clinical psychologist and director of the Seattle Psychoanalytic Society and Institute, says she was motivated to sign by her worries about Trump’s competence, including his emotional stability, integrity and honesty. I am hoping this letter will inspire both citizens and, particularly, the Congress to do their jobs,” she wrote in an e-mail, “and step in before our country and the world are permanently damaged. Radant thinks it is time to get rid of the Goldwater rule. She says mental health professionals are well qualified to offer certain diagnoses from a distance, pointing out the press, sans training, freely makes such assessments. Fellow signatory Alexandra Rolde, a psychiatrist affiliated with Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and Newton–Wellesley Hospital, both in Massachusetts, emphasizes the letter does not attempt to diagnose Trump but rather highlights personality traits she and her colleagues find concerning. She does not believe any mental health professional should make a diagnosis without seeing a patient, but thinks it can still be appropriate to comment on how a person’s mental health may affect other people and his or her ability to perform.
Have you seen a psychologist lately??....You might be overdue...
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Have you seen a psychologist lately??....You might be overdue...
When someone has no rational response to the info being presented, the drivel above from the Gormless one is how they respond. So pathetic!
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