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Old December 6th, 2017, 07:37 PM   #91
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So no one answered my question.

Are the frozen embryos in an IVF lab human beings with rights?
No takers? Didn't think so...
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Old December 6th, 2017, 07:53 PM   #92
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B.S many Christian couples go over seas because it is so hard to adopt children here, lesbians and gays get first choice.
Are you out of your mind? What on earth would give you the idea that "lesbians and gays get first choice?"
How do you even come up with such nonsense?
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Old December 6th, 2017, 08:10 PM   #93
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Are the frozen embryos in an IVF lab human beings with rights?
Good question....but perhaps a better question would be the one someone bright asked that really tends to stump anti-abortion cultists and their irrational superstitious belief that any zygote cell, formed right after the sperm cell penetrates the egg, has to be considered the same thing as a living, breathing human being. Here it is...

If you were walking down the street and noticed that a building labeled 'Fertility Clinic' was on fire and you rushed in to see if you could somehow help....and, in a smoky room with flames consuming the far wall, you saw on one side a nurse lying on the floor unconscious and on the other side of the room a large heavy freezer container labeled 'Frozen Embryos'.....the fire is visibly approaching and the choking smoke is rapidly getting thicker and thicker so you only have time to save one thing.....do you carry out the living breathing woman or the case of frozen embryos?

No normal sane person leaves the woman to die and lugs out the the freezer case. Even hard core anti-abortionists have proven to be very reluctant to say they would let the woman die to save the embryos. This says a lot about how they really feel about the issue deep inside themselves, no matter what fanatical rhetoric they spew.

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Old December 6th, 2017, 08:51 PM   #94
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Good question....but perhaps a better question would be the one someone bright asked that really tends to stump anti-abortion cultists and their irrational superstitious belief that any zygote cell, formed right after the sperm cell penetrates the egg, has to be considered the same thing as a living, breathing human being. Here it is...

If you were walking down the street and noticed that a building labeled 'Fertility Clinic' was on fire and you rushed in to see if you could somehow help....and, in a smoky room with flames consuming the far wall, you saw on one side a nurse lying on the floor unconscious and on the other side of the room a large heavy freezer container labeled 'Frozen Embryos'.....the fire is visibly approaching and the choking smoke is rapidly getting thicker and thicker so you only have time to save one thing.....do you carry out the living breathing woman or the case of frozen embryos?

No normal sane person leaves the woman to die and lugs out the the freezer case. Even hard core anti-abortionists have proven to be very reluctant to say they would let the woman die to save the embryos. This says a lot about how they really feel about the issue deep inside themselves, no matter what fanatical rhetoric they spew.
I'll go you one better. Here's the ultimate Christian paradox. If science ever proves that being gay is GENETIC and develops a 100% fool proof test that can identify that a fetus WILL be gay, I wonder how many "good Christians" will KNOWINGLY bring a gay child into the world versus how many will quietly slip off to the local abortion clinic ??
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Nope. Who says she "waived" any rights, you?
Yes it's the Sensible thing to say!
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Old December 7th, 2017, 04:23 AM   #96
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Total anti-sex-cult bullshit!

Engaging in sex DOES NOT MEAN that a woman "waived the right" to have control over her own body, you misogynistic moron!

I cited the actual rape numbers from a reputable source. 32,000 pregnancies as a result of rape every year! Take your phony-baloney anti-abortionist website bullshit numbers and stick 'em where the sun don't shine.
Truth hurts, I understand!
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HELL FUCKING NO YOU ARE NOT so caring about children AFER they are born. IF that were true there would not be 500,000 children in need of foster homes. There would not be 100,000 children available for permanent adoption !!! States would have never had laws prohibiting gays and singles from adopting children.

If a baby is white and healthy, then chances are it will be adopted. IF it's brown or has ANY sort of health issue, then it's chances of finding a permanent home drop by 95%.

If you and all your rethuglicunt congress are SOOOOO concerned about the children WHY HAVE THEY NOT REAUTHORIZED THE CHIP PROGRAM, which serves the poorest of the poorest children, more than NINE FUCKING MILLION OF THEM !!!!!!

NO SIR NO SIR NO SIR you do NOT get to sit there all sanctimonious and holier than thou when you and your kind are willing to let children suffer and possibly die from preventable and treatable illnesses while you're spending ONE TRILLION DOLLARS to give the 1% and corporate America a tax cut !!!!

I know at least ten families in my Church who have adopted babies, one couple has adopted three black children, One a Chinese orphan and on a Philippine child.
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I'll go you one better. Here's the ultimate Christian paradox. If science ever proves that being gay is GENETIC and develops a 100% fool proof test that can identify that a fetus WILL be gay, I wonder how many "good Christians" will KNOWINGLY bring a gay child into the world versus how many will quietly slip off to the local abortion clinic ??


ARE YOU SAYING that you wish homosexuality was a Genetic Disorder....

That is what you just said.

If that is the Case we can begin Gene Therapy and cure it ROFLMBO

Westboro Church said that would be a great use for Cord Blood Stem Cells.
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TV and Sens are BOTH hypocrites. For all their blah blah blah about human life and rights etc etc etc, the TRUTH IS, they ARE PROCHOICE !!!!

There ARE situations where they both would accept abortion as a viable option. I see it as utterly black and white. IF it is WRONG then it is wrong in ALL cases, EVEN for rape, incest or to save the life of the mother. If you're going to sit there and tell us all that it's essentially "God's will" that a woman gets pregnant and that we're NOT to interfere then so be it !!!! But that means if your wife, sister or daughter has a pregnancy that turns toxic, THEY DIE !!!!!

If there is even ONE situation where abortion becomes a viable option THEN YOU ARE PRO-CHOICE !!!! END OF STORY !!! Anything after that is pure moral relativism.

Your holding your reasons and excuses as "moral and justifiable" while condemning everyone else's as not.

Apparently you have not read my post in the past.

I have said there is ONLY ONE LEGITMATE reason for Abortion.

to save the life of the mother nothing less.
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I know at least ten families in my Church who have adopted babies, one couple has adopted three black children, One a Chinese orphan and on a Philippine child.
So what?
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