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Old December 4th, 2017, 04:23 PM   #11
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The Bible was inspired by God, written by men. Again sir, you may defend the killing of unborn children based on men in robes all you want it won't change the FACT that it is Murder.

Sleep well tonight knowing you defend the killing of the defenseless. Making fun of what I believe in does not change the truth of it.
Dude. EVERY religion claims that THEIR particular Holy Book was "inspired by God", "written by Angels" or something.
What I wrote was 100% accurate and you do NOT deny it.
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Mr. RNG you are welcome to call abortion whatever you want based on alternative facts determined by man. To believe a child in the womb with all of it's dna, is anything, or will ever be anything but a human, is simply a belief held to keep you, and others from feeling the guilt of barbarically killing the most innocent among us.
An embryo can become a person, if a woman chooses to lend her womb to the process.

It's her choice, and you are a misogynist, and an asshole for calling a woman a murderer for making a choice that she is entitled to make, and you are not.
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Old December 4th, 2017, 05:40 PM   #13
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The Bible was inspired by God, written by men.
Too bad you are obviously so completely clueless about what it means.

There is actually nothing in the Bible about abortion.

It is pretty clear on when human life begins though.

Genesis 2:7 is clearest. The first human became a “living being” (nefesh hayah, “a living breath”) when God blew into its nostrils and it started to breathe. Human life begins when you start breathing, biblical writers thought. It ends when you stop. That’s why the Hebrew word often translated “spirit” (ruah) — “life force” might be a better translation — literally means “wind” or “breath.”

It’s hard to ask biblical texts the modern question, “when does human life begin?” because the Bible has a very different understanding of human reproduction. Biblical writers don’t talk about sperm fertilizing eggs. They talk about male “seed” planted in fertile female ground. Just as a seed becomes a plant when it emerges from the ground, so too a man’s planted seed becomes another human being when it emerges from the womb.

The only verses I know that address the legal status of “seed” in the womb come in a brief section of case law.

Exodus 21:22-25 describes a case where a pregnant woman jumps into a fight between her husband and another man and suffers injuries that cause her to miscarry. Injuries to the woman prompt the normal penalties for harming another human being: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life. Killing the woman is murder, a capital crime.

The miscarriage is treated differently, however — as property loss, not murder. The assailant must pay a fine to the husband. The law of a life for a life does not apply. The fetus is important, but it’s not human life in the same way the pregnant woman is.

My impression is that most Americans have a more nuanced and conservative view than the Bible does on this, though we’re getting at the same idea: an important moral and legal line is crossed when the fetus can survive outside the womb.

For the Bible, that’s when a child is born and starts breathing. For many of us today, it’s when a fetus becomes “viable” — somewhere between 21 and 27 weeks into the pregnancy, thanks to our amazing medical technology.

If something goes wrong late in the pregnancy and the fetus dies, we call it “still birth” and, by law, issue a death certificate.

If the pregnancy ends early on, we call it “miscarriage.” It’s traumatic, a terrible loss, but most of us think of it differently than we think of a still birth. We don’t require death certificates for miscarriages.

(excerpts from: Abortion: What the Bible Says (and Doesn’t Say))







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...you may defend the killing of unborn children...
Nobody is doing that......for the simple reason that there are no "unborn children" being aborted. That is just one of the semantic tricks your cult uses to feed your superstitions. Although the question of names is a tricky one, the common usage follows this guideline from the Associated Press website in 2009:

Q. We reported on an accident in which a woman who was several months pregnant died and so did the unborn child. We went with ‘fetus’ but the question came up of proper usage. Should it be ‘fetus’ until born, ‘unborn child,’ or is there another locution? Thanks. — from Escondido, CA on Tue, Jan 06, 2009

A. Human fetus describes eighth week of development to birth. Unborn child usually refers to a late-stage fetus that could survive outside the womb if born prematurely.







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....it won't change the FACT that it is Murder.
That seems like a "FACT" only to you and your fellow irrational cultists. The majority of the population doesn't' see it that way.






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Making fun of what I believe in does not change the truth of it.
Loudly proclaiming what you "believe" does not make it true.

You are welcome to your 'beliefs', or crackpot superstitions as some people would see it, but you are not going to impose those pathetic antiquated patriarchal control patterns on the rest of us any more. Women are and should be free to make all decisions about what happens with their own bodies, including pregnancy
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Dude. EVERY religion claims that THEIR particular Holy Book was "inspired by God", "written by Angels" or something.
What I wrote was 100% accurate and you do NOT deny it.
Period.
DOI written by men, men are flawed, God is not
U.S constitution written by men, men are flawed, God is not
U.S legal codes written by men, men are flawed, God is not

That makes your post a little more accurate sir.
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Too bad you are obviously so completely clueless about what it means.

There is actually nothing in the Bible about abortion.

It is pretty clear on when human life begins though.

Genesis 2:7 is clearest. The first human became a “living being” (nefesh hayah, “a living breath”) when God blew into its nostrils and it started to breathe. Human life begins when you start breathing, biblical writers thought. It ends when you stop. That’s why the Hebrew word often translated “spirit” (ruah) — “life force” might be a better translation — literally means “wind” or “breath.”

It’s hard to ask biblical texts the modern question, “when does human life begin?” because the Bible has a very different understanding of human reproduction. Biblical writers don’t talk about sperm fertilizing eggs. They talk about male “seed” planted in fertile female ground. Just as a seed becomes a plant when it emerges from the ground, so too a man’s planted seed becomes another human being when it emerges from the womb.

The only verses I know that address the legal status of “seed” in the womb come in a brief section of case law.

Exodus 21:22-25 describes a case where a pregnant woman jumps into a fight between her husband and another man and suffers injuries that cause her to miscarry. Injuries to the woman prompt the normal penalties for harming another human being: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life. Killing the woman is murder, a capital crime.

The miscarriage is treated differently, however — as property loss, not murder. The assailant must pay a fine to the husband. The law of a life for a life does not apply. The fetus is important, but it’s not human life in the same way the pregnant woman is.

My impression is that most Americans have a more nuanced and conservative view than the Bible does on this, though we’re getting at the same idea: an important moral and legal line is crossed when the fetus can survive outside the womb.

For the Bible, that’s when a child is born and starts breathing. For many of us today, it’s when a fetus becomes “viable” — somewhere between 21 and 27 weeks into the pregnancy, thanks to our amazing medical technology.

If something goes wrong late in the pregnancy and the fetus dies, we call it “still birth” and, by law, issue a death certificate.

If the pregnancy ends early on, we call it “miscarriage.” It’s traumatic, a terrible loss, but most of us think of it differently than we think of a still birth. We don’t require death certificates for miscarriages.

(excerpts from: Abortion: What the Bible Says (and Doesn’t Say))








Nobody is doing that......for the simple reason that there are no "unborn children" being aborted. That is just one of the semantic tricks your cult uses to feed your superstitions. Although the question of names is a tricky one, the common usage follows this guideline from the Associated Press website in 2009:

Q. We reported on an accident in which a woman who was several months pregnant died and so did the unborn child. We went with ‘fetus’ but the question came up of proper usage. Should it be ‘fetus’ until born, ‘unborn child,’ or is there another locution? Thanks. — from Escondido, CA on Tue, Jan 06, 2009

A. Human fetus describes eighth week of development to birth. Unborn child usually refers to a late-stage fetus that could survive outside the womb if born prematurely.








That seems like a "FACT" only to you and your fellow irrational cultists. The majority of the population doesn't' see it that way.








Loudly proclaiming what you "believe" does not make it true.

You are welcome to your 'beliefs', or crackpot superstitions as some people would see it, but you are not going to impose those pathetic antiquated patriarchal control patterns on the rest of us any more. Women are and should be free to make all decisions about what happens with their own bodies, including pregnancy
Look you can make fun of my beliefs all you want, that is fine against the rules but fine, but at least know what you are posting please


Jeremiah 1:5King James Version (KJV)

5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

You do not decide what I am welcome to, and your labels don't stick to me I am a child of the most high God.
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DOI written by men, men are flawed, God is not
U.S constitution written by men, men are flawed, God is not
U.S legal codes written by men, men are flawed, God is not

That makes your post a little more accurate sir.
You forgot, men are are real....God is not
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You forgot, men are are real....God is not
You forgot to end that, in your opinion.

I will re post this for you so you understand

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DOI written by men, men are flawed, God is not
U.S constitution written by men, men are flawed, God is not
U.S legal codes written by men, men are flawed, God is not

That makes your post a little more accurate sir.
Glad we can agree all those documents I listed were written by men and NOT God. Just a matter of personal opinion as to who or what had any degree of "inspiration" or from what source. *shrug*
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Glad we can agree all those documents I listed were written by men and NOT God. Just a matter of personal opinion as to who or what had any degree of "inspiration" or from what source. *shrug*
Tell you what let me punch your 15 year old kid in the face and send him to the hospital..

I am sure that would not inspire you.
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