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Old December 4th, 2017, 02:12 PM   #1
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Utah has 2/3rs of it's land under

government control, including the 3.2 million acres in these two areas.
The Antiquities Act does state the "smallest" amount possible is to be used for these national monuments.

Dec. 4 (UPI) -- President Donald Trump on Monday downsized two national monuments during his visit to Utah, saying previous administrations "severely abused" the Antiquities Act used to protect the land.

Speaking to a crowd in Salt Lake City, the president signed two proclamations shrinking the size of two national monuments in Utah: Bears Ears and Grand Staircase Escalante.
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government control, including the 3.2 million acres in these two areas.
The Antiquities Act does state the "smallest" amount possible is to be used for these national monuments.

Dec. 4 (UPI) -- President Donald Trump on Monday downsized two national monuments during his visit to Utah, saying previous administrations "severely abused" the Antiquities Act used to protect the land.

Speaking to a crowd in Salt Lake City, the president signed two proclamations shrinking the size of two national monuments in Utah: Bears Ears and Grand Staircase Escalante.
So what? The entire state's population is just 3.05 million people spread out over 84,899 square miles. How many acres are in close to 85,000 square miles? Do the math, there are 640 acres in ONE square mile.
And over 1/3 of those people (1.06 million) live in just 10 cities.
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I return the question, so what?
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I return the question, so what?

He can't help himself.
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Trump just undid an Obama executive order?!

Wow. Shocking. That's what I call news.

(I know, I know - one of them was by Clinton - another real shocker!)
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Trump just used a statute that allows a President to set aside federal land as a National Monument, to undo a National Monument designation, which the statute doesn't allow.

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Trump just used a statute that allows a President to set aside federal land as a National Monument, to undo a National Monument designation, which the statute doesn't allow.

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Yep it is, for exactly the reason you gave.

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Environmental groups and Native American tribes have vowed to tie up Trump’s move in courts. Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance plans to file a suit “within days, if not hours,” legal director Steve Bloch said.

“The general gist of the argument regarding both national monuments is that the Antiquities Act is a limited grant of authority from Congress to the president to establish national monuments,” Bloch said. “Nowhere in the act does Congress give the president the power to revoke or diminish national monuments, and by doing so the president is acting beyond his authority and unlawfully.

The Navajo Nation also promised to fight Trump’s decision. The Navajos, who consider the Bears Ears monument of “critical importance” to the culture of many tribes in the region, said the White House ignored their requests to meet and discuss the issue.

“The decision to reduce the size of the Monument is being made with no tribal consultation,” Navajo President Russell Begaye said in a press release. “The reduction in the size of the monument leaves us no choice but to litigate this decision.”

...Trump is also in danger of inflaming public opinion even while he appeases the Utah congressional delegation. Besides environmentalists, hunting and fishing groups have come out against the move, including some groups that had expressed early optimism about Trump and Zinke....
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...aircase-203201

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The amount of land made into national parks, state parks or other protected areas is insignificant to the needs of the population.
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Can't help myself from what specifically?
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So what? The entire state's population is just 3.05 million people spread out over 84,899 square miles. How many acres are in close to 85,000 square miles? Do the math, there are 640 acres in ONE square mile.
And over 1/3 of those people (1.06 million) live in just 10 cities.


I realize that Tennesee is a long way from Utah, but have you been to Utah--driven through Utah??
It is (IN MY OPINION) the best kept secret in this country. Stunning beauty.

We do the drive quite a bit because we go to CO from AZ often. We stay in Moab a lot--such a neat area.
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