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Old January 3rd, 2018, 06:54 AM   #51
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 06:57 AM   #52
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well, that's pretty pathetic

not even right wing wackjobs support her
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 07:01 AM   #53
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I think you have a point but perhaps the problem is thousands of years of male domination of women, just as racism is the result of enslaving dark-skinned people and then even when they are freed continuing to mistreat them and holding a false notion of superiority. Our culture, dominated by Christianity and coming out of patriarchy in the Greek city-states and Rome, has carried an evil of dominating and exploiting humans, and how do we correct this problem, if it is not being as men ourselves?


LOL....Sensible RARELY has a point, Athena. Feminism is about equality and LOTS of men have a problem with that concept.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 07:01 AM   #54
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Someone's feeling very insecure in his masculinity.
And someone is being pretty insensitive and contributing to the social problem we have. Why do we enjoy doing this and is it what will get the best results?
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LOL....Sensible RARELY has a point, Athena. Feminism is about equality and LOTS of men have a problem with that concept.
Many women have a huge problem letting their husband share the household responsibilities, especially older women. I did attempt to change this and decided maybe I do not want to deal with the women's resistance to change? Although as we age we can not do what we did when we are young, and we develop health issues that slow us down or force us to be dependent on others. It is because I do workshops for people living with chronic conditions and also my past education/experience working with older people, that I see the huge problem of staying in gender our roles, and not embracing a crossover and sharing of responsibilities. Gender separation is often imposed more by females than by males. Maitaining social order is a task women tend to accept naturally. Today many women want to change that order, but they may not want to go about this as though the only resistance to change is male.

Also exactly what is equality? I can not experience life as a man, nor as a person of color, nor as a wealthy person, nor as my grandmother experienced life a hundred years ago. When our life experience is unavoidably different, how can we experience equality?

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What are these supposedly macho "alpha-male RW types so terribly frightened of??? ...
That's simple. They are afraid that if society does not allow them to subjugate women and minorities, the pseudo masculinity that they display will evaporate like thin mist in the morning sun, and they will have to actually become men to be thought of as men.
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And someone is being pretty insensitive and contributing to the social problem we have. Why do we enjoy doing this and is it what will get the best results?
As far as feminism goes, you will get no results from Sensitive.

He's the type of male that resorts to calling women whores when he is not allowed to win an argument.

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That's simple. They are afraid that if society does not allow them to subjugate women and minorities, the pseudo masculinity that they display will evaporate like thin mist in the morning sun, and they will have to actually become men to be thought of as men.
Hum, perhaps talk like that is part of the problem. It surely is not respectful. I can not find any virtue in what you said, nor a principle that can be supported.
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As far as feminism goes, you will get no results from Sensitive.

He's the type of male that resorts to calling women whores when he is not allowed to win an argument.

And you think being disrespectful is going to make things better?
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Hum, perhaps talk like that is part of the problem. It surely is not respectful. I can not find any virtue in what you said, nor a principle that can be supported.
Talk like that isn't part of the problem. MEN like that are part of the problem.

I'm 59 years old and I have seen a lot of changes in my life. I was 9 years old when my mother chained herself to the doors of a bank because they refused to allow her to have a savings account in just her name. She knew that if my father had access to it, there would be no savings.

I know men today who would like to go back to those days. Not because they think that women can't handle money....they aren't stupid...but because not allowing women to handle money makes them feel 'manly'.

You aren't going to be able to change men like that with logical arguments and attempting to do so is simply a waste of time.
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