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Old January 3rd, 2018, 07:39 AM   #61
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And you think being disrespectful is going to make things better?
Respect is earned. Sensible has not earned mine. Rather, he has earned my contempt.

I pay him what he earns.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 07:49 AM   #62
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Respect is earned. Sensible has not earned mine. Rather, he has earned my contempt.

I pay him what he earns.
I think we are either respectful people or we are not. I think there is a problem with being disrespectful and believing someone else is responsible for our behavior. I think being disrespectful leads to people being disrespectful and that this makes matters worse. Why do you seem to think it will make things better?

Isn't this a matter of culture? If we agree it is okay to disrespect each other, that is a social agreement, so that is what people will do. If we agree it is not okay to disrespect each other, sooner or later the social pressure to be respectful will prevent being disrespect.

In another thread, a few people are complaining about the decline in society, they are saying they would like a return to good manners. You can promote disrespect or good manners. What you choose you to do is not under the control of someone else. It is about your character not the character of someone else.

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As far as feminism goes, you will get no results from Sensitive.

He's the type of male that resorts to calling women whores when he is not allowed to win an argument.


This was kind of my point here. Men calling women whores is unacceptable. Women calling women whores should be even more unacceptable. Another group I'm part of consists of several women (all self professed feminists) who take great joy in running amok calling Melania Trump a whore. I think a big chunk of feminism is also about respecting and not degrading each other. We can disagree or even not like one another without calling each other "fat," or "ugly", or "whores". I mean, don't we already go through enough?

Men in Hollywood and men in politics have been called out on for saying degrading things about women. Why aren't the women held accountable for the same exact behavior?
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I think we are either respectful people or we are not. I think there is a problem with being disrespectful and believing someone else is responsible for our behavior. I think being disrespectful leads to people being disrespectful and that no good will come of it. If you think some good can come out of disrespecting someone, please state what that good might be.
I think that you and I have very different definitions of respect.

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rəˈspekt/
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a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

Nothing sensible has ever posted has caused me to feel any admiration for him whatsoever.

As far as 'what good does it do'? My husbands brother is a great deal like sensible when it comes to his attitude towards women. It took him a few years to learn that his 'tea glass rattling', 'finger snapping', telling me that I 'need to learn to mind' bullshit wasn't going to work with me. Now he avoids me like the plague.
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This was kind of my point here. Men calling women whores is unacceptable. Women calling women whores should be even more unacceptable. Another group I'm part of consists of several women (all self professed feminists) who take great joy in running amok calling Melania Trump a whore. I think a big chunk of feminism is also about respecting and not degrading each other. We can disagree or even not like one another without calling each other "fat," or "ugly", or "whores". I mean, don't we already go through enough?

Men in Hollywood and men in politics have been called out on for saying degrading things about women. Why aren't the women held accountable for the same exact behavior?
I guess it all comes down to whether or not it's true.

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I think we are either respectful people or we are not. I think there is a problem with being disrespectful and believing someone else is responsible for our behavior. I think being disrespectful leads to people being disrespectful and that this makes matters worse. Why do you seem to think it will make things better?

Isn't this a matter of culture? If we agree it is okay to disrespect each other, that is a social agreement, so that is what people will do. If we agree it is not okay to disrespect each other, sooner or later the social pressure to be respectful will prevent being disrespect.

In another thread, a few people are complaining about the decline in society, they are saying they would like a return to good manners. You can promote disrespect or good manners. What you choose you to do is not under the control of someone else. It is about your character not the character of someone else.
Disrespect is not the opposite of good manners.

I treat everyone the way I would like to be treated until they prove that they are not deserving of that consideration.

If you wish to call that bad manners, you are certainly free to do so.

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As far as feminism goes, you will get no results from Sensitive.

He's the type of male that resorts to calling women whores when he is not allowed to win an argument.

Only political whores, and you have never won an argument so how would you know?
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I think that you and I have very different definitions of respect.

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Nothing sensible has ever posted has caused me to feel any admiration for him whatsoever.

As far as 'what good does it do'? My husbands brother is a great deal like sensible when it comes to his attitude towards women. It took him a few years to learn that his 'tea glass rattling', 'finger snapping', telling me that I 'need to learn to mind' bullshit wasn't going to work with me. Now he avoids me like the plague.
Way to go Butch!
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Respect is earned. Sensible has not earned mine. Rather, he has earned my contempt.

I pay him what he earns.
Here, here, but you have gone out of your way to earn mine right?
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