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Old January 9th, 2018, 10:51 AM   #31
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Old January 9th, 2018, 08:33 PM   #32
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Where was Oprah when Rose McGowen was being slandered by Hollywood for speaking "her truth?"




Oprah is as fake as the rest of the Hollywood elite.




Rose McGowan: ‘Hollywood blacklisted me because I got raped’

The actor Rose McGowan has said she was “blacklisted” because she “got raped”, and has vowed to chase down the individuals in the film industry who are “aiding and abetting” sex crimes.

On Thursday she publicly accused the Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein of raping her.

In a remarkable interview recorded in January 2017, obtained by the Observer and published for the first time, McGowan sheds more light on the allegation while explaining that she never reported the rape to the police because a criminal lawyer advised her that she was unlikely to win. “Also, I didn’t want his name next to mine in my obituary; his name doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as mine when I’m dead,” she said.
McGowan is one of more than 30 women who have come forward since the New York Times revealed sexual harassment and rape allegations against Weinstein going back decades. In a series of tweets last week she also accused Roy Price, the head of Amazon Studios, of ignoring her when she made the allegation earlier.

The accusations have raised questions over who knew about the details, with McGowan, 44, claiming in the interview that she was directly threatened after reporting that she had been raped. “They threatened [me] with being blacklisted. I was blacklisted after I was raped, because I got raped, because I said something … but only like internally, you know,” she said.
Following a New Yorker article last week in which three women accused Weinstein of rape, a spokesman for the Hollywood producer “unequivocally denied” the allegations.

During the interview McGowan also said that she had between 150 and 200 people she could subpoena to support her testimony and referred to a legal document in relation to the alleged attack. “I actually have a signed document from the time of the attack. It was settled for a very small settlement, so that’s an admission of guilt,” she said.

Weinstein reached a settlement with McGowan when she was 23 years old after “an episode in a hotel room” during a film festival, according to a New York Times article this month.

The star also suggested that she had other physical proof. “I had three surgeries on my wrist and elbow. I think that’s fair enough,” she said.

More broadly, the star of the US television series Charmed criticised the way allegations of sexual harassment and rape were treated by the film industry, in which the victims rather than the perpetrators were targeted.

“They blame the victim, they do all that shit. People are bred to be scared. They are bred to put fear into people and that’s what they do, they’re bred to put fear into the publishers and lawyers and they overreach it, and I’m going to do what I can and come out as hard as I can,” she said.

Although the interview took place ten months ago, McGowan correctly predicted that women in the industry would come forward with claims of rape, sexual harassment and unwanted physical contact. “You can’t really keep information any more,” she said, referring to the allegations directed at Bill Cosby, who faces numerous accusations of rape, drug-facilitated sexual assault and sexual misconduct stretching back to the 1960s.

McGowan claimed that a network of people hid the allegations against Cosby. “It was a whole cottage industry. Everyone who worked with him are aiding and abetting a crime. Those are the fuckers that I’m going after.”

She also revealed that the late US journalist David Carr had wanted to publicise the crimes against her, but she was waiting for the right time. “Everyone knows who I’m talking about: David Carr from the New York Times was trying to break my story for years, and I wouldn’t let him. I said, ‘It’s not time yet, the public consciousness is not there.’”

During the recording, details of McGowan’s forthcoming book – called Brave and bought by the UK publisher HarperCollins – were discussed. She said 85% of it had been written and that she was prepared to use false names if legally required in order to detail certain incidents in it. “My book is going to address a lot of these things, it’s not a ‘tell all’, it’s a ‘tell it how it is’,” said McGowan.

Though she was named in the New York Times investigation as an accuser, her tweets last Thursday were the first time she publicly alleged that Weinstein raped her. “I told the head of your studio that HW raped me,” she wrote in a tweet to Amazon’s chief executive, using Weinstein’s initials.

Three months before the interview obtained by the Observer took place – October 2016 – McGowan spoke about being raped by a studio head, but did not name Weinstein. Using the hashtag #WhyWomenDontReport, she explained that she never went to the authorities with the alleged crime because she received legal advice that she could never win the case.


https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...owan-rape-film
This is why I started a thread on Thomas Frank's analysis of Harvey Weinstein's MO. I'll assume Oprah is not a sexual predator of course, but the same problem of self-aggrandizement exists when a segment of the entitled rich class identify themselves as liberals and throw a few alms to the poor to show us plebes how wonderful they are! They are only different from conservatives in the sense that they have a much greater fear of bad publicity than the right..who care much less what people think of them.

So, no doubt Oprah and other Hollywood liberals are going to make sure they never again have pictures taken beside Harvey Weinstein, but we are learning that most of them heard all the stories and the rumors that had spread throughout the movie industry. It's not exactly a new thing either! Stories of "the casting couch" go all the way back to MGM's - Sam Goldwyn and Louis B. Mayer...one of them...maybe both..were accused of raping a teenage Judy Garland...according to her memoirs.
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So your response is: where was Oprah?? How is that relevant? How does that make Oprah fake? Does that same question apply to the other 30 women Weinstein assaulted? Does that same question apply to Bill Cosby's rapes? Matt Lauer? Charlie Rose? Al Franken? Steven Seagal? Dustin Hoffman? Jeremy Piven? Kevin Spacey? Oliver Stone? Because ALL these guys were in the entertainment business and probably ALL of them knew Oprah via social engagements/films/industry. Donald J. Trump says he knows Oprah very well so where was Oprah when his victims came forward?

Oprah Winfrey stood in front of America last night and some of us completely missed the point, which wasn't about HER. It was about us. AND every little girl who was watching. It was about "Women whose names we’ll never know. They are domestic workers and farmworkers. They are working in factories and they work in restaurants and they’re in academia, engineering, medicine, and science.They’re part of the world of tech and politics and business. They’re our athletes in the Olympics and they’re our soldiers in the military."
Oprah talked about the "limits" of TOP DOWN power.....the power of MEN in positions of power and how they have used it.
Oprah should know what she's talking about. She was sexually abused as a child. She was 9 years old when her 19-year-old cousin raped her so do you really want to continue with "where was Oprah"?
Up till now, Oprah has made herself a billionaire through her work, setting up her own studio, and her investments, BUT what has Oprah done for those women she mentioned who are domestic workers, farmworkers, factories and restaurants? Oprah is framing Top Down Power as power of men over women, BUT it's much more complicated than that! And as we have seen with the women who have broken through the 'glass ceiling' they are as likely to help their female employees as male bosses are! On that point I can think of no more infamous example than former Yahoo CEO - Marissa Mayer, who was pregnant when she assumed the job...took two weeks off maternity leave...had a spare room in her office suite set up as her own personal daycare BUT denied employees the same privilege of an on-site daycare facility and worse - passed a rule barring all working from home..for any reasons: https://www.thestar.com/life/parent/...e_to_hate.html

Oprah's messaging on her TV shows has always focused on personal problems and personal development/not on anything with a clear social message behind it. Instead of working together..especially joiining a union, the message from Oprah, like other wealthy liberals is going to focus on education or new strategies to better your life. If Oprah is actually using these public speaking opportunities as a dry run for a presidential campain in two years, I haven't seen anything in the past few years that she's even noticed the dissatisfaction with politics-as-usual and demands for real economic reforms. An Oprah campaign would likely give us warmed over Obama speeches about "change you can believe in" and I doubt the public mood is going to run out and support crappy empty rhetoric again, regardless of the source!
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My fear in 2020 is that a bunch of non political people will run for President. Mainly entertainment people like actors and rock stars. They have been emboldened since Trump was elected, and hey, if this guy, who has never been a politician in his life could do it, why not us?

What does Oprah bring to be President? Honestly, nothing. She is probably the luckiest black woman who ever lived. She did grow up in poverty and had to overcome a lot of bad stuff in her life, and she should be admired for that. But let's be truthful. She went to a "historically black college" called Tennessee State University and became a broadcast anchor. She worked in different media markets and then got her own talk show host in the 1980's which ballooned into massive ratings and her into wealth. She no doubt had many talented directors, handlers, writers and everything else behind the scenes to make her look good and millions of mostly white housewives watched her everyday. Her fame, wealth, and her meeting, befriending and knowing super powerful people.

But at heart, this is all Oprah Winfrey is, a news anchor and a talk show host. She is smart, but again, was very, very fortunate and lucky to have what she had in life, especially for a plain, overweight, nothing special looking black woman. Why Oprah instead of Gayle King for example? Or Ann Curry, Hoda Kotb? King, Curry and Kotb are all successful, rich media ladies, but they are bush league compared to Oprah, the Queen.

Oprah is just a master of reading cue cards, to inflect the writings of other people, to be able to take direction. No originality, no free thought or thinking. Her philosophies are whack as hell.
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Oprah is brilliant, she is a genius, she has her finger on the pulse of what America wants.
That doesn't mean she'd make a good president, doesn't mean she'd be a bad president, that doesn't mean she'd even want to be president.

2020 is a long way off, one speech isn't going to lock anything up at this point.
But I do hope that Oprah campaigns for the next president.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 03:28 AM   #36
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Gerrymandering has nothing to do with Presidential elections. Perhaps you should stick to worrying about your own country.
You think not? How did Trump get to be President against the will of the People then? You divide them carefully into States, after all. And, as I frequently point out, if you took your storm-troopers home, no-one would have the slightest interest in you ever.
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You think not? How did Trump get to be President against the will of the People then? You divide them carefully into States, after all. And, as I frequently point out, if you took your storm-troopers home, no-one would have the slightest interest in you ever.
He did not become President against the will of the people, I am a person, I wanted him to be President. In this county we do not let one state or actually several large cities decide the Presidency. God help us if we ever let LA county and New York city decide the Presidency
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He did not become President against the will of the people, I am a person, I wanted him to be President. In this county we do not let one state or actually several large cities decide the Presidency. God help us if we ever let LA county and New York city decide the Presidency
As you know, the majority of Americans could not - and can't - stand the loony and his loony supporters. The will of the people, if it exists, is expressed by the majority of that people, as you know.
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As you know, the majority of Americans could not - and can't - stand the loony and his loony supporters. The will of the people, if it exists, is expressed by the majority of that people, as you know.
Tough Fucking Shit!!!...Next time don't run somebody who should be in prison....He was duly elected by Constitutional method....Try understanding OUR Constitution before you go opining on what is good for us....

In this country the people do not elect the President....The States do....The people's votes count at the State level.....The reason was that smaller States were concerned that large population areas would be the arbitrators of who wins the Presidency, if it was done by popular vote.......
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Did you watch the Golden Globes last night? If not, you missed a moving speech by Oprah Winfrey, the recipient of the Cecille B. DeMille lifetime achievement award.

America woke up Monday with a crazy idea in its addled brain: Oprah Winfrey could be the next president of the United States.

The notion has tugged at the imagination for as long as Winfrey has been famous, but her barnstorming speech at the Golden Globes on Sunday electrified much of the 56 percent of the populace that disapproves of her fellow television personality, President Trump. The possibility of a Winfrey campaign, on Monday at least, seemed capable of uniting both ends of the political spectrum.

“I want her to run for president,” Meryl Streep told The Washington Post just after the Globes ceremony. “I don’t think she had any intention [of declaring]. But now she doesn’t have a choice.”

“Oprah. #ImWithHer,” tweeted Bill Kristol, scion of neoconservatism and the original promoter of Sarah Palin, whose tongue-in-cheek declaration gave way to an objective case for her candidacy: “Understands Middle America better than Elizabeth Warren,” he tweeted. “Less touchy-feely than Joe Biden, more pleasant than Andrew Cuomo, more charismatic than John Hickenlooper.”

The question lingering under this surprising groundswell: Are we now at a point where we believe celebrity is a prerequisite for winning (let alone governing)? Jokes about Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson being so widely likable that he, too, could run for president have recently morphed into something like actual candidate buzz; the wrestler-turned-actor recently said he’s “seriously considering” a run.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.a5710c9c100e
Oh hell no! Not another celebrity president! F#ck it! Why don't we just nuke ourselves to save our enemies the trouble and make this country's death more painless?
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