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Old January 11th, 2018, 05:02 PM   #171
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Nonsense the pictures are fact and you don't like it. you have called the baby a clump of cells, is that what it looks like, see as a matter of "fact" even now i am made up of cells.
So what if the pictures are “fact”? It STILL does not make them human beings.

Being made up of cells is not what differentiates a human being from a non human being. A daisy is made up of cells, that doesn’t make it a human being. As soon as you want to discuss this rationally I’m willing, but as long as all you want to do is throw around meaningless phrases like “it looks like a human being” then we have nothing more to talk about.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 05:03 PM   #172
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So what if the pictures are “fact”? It STILL does not make them human beings.

Being made up of cells is not what differentiates a human being from a non human being. A daisy is made up of cells, that doesn’t make it a human being. As soon as you want to discuss this rationally I’m willing, but as long as all you want to do is throw around meaningless phrases like “it looks like a human being” then we have nothing more to talk about.
You do realize you are just made up of cells, right?
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Old January 11th, 2018, 05:05 PM   #173
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But a woman has a right to make other choices.
You don't like it, but she has the choice, do you understand, it's her choice, not yours.

You have this thing going where you believe that what you want overrides other peoples rights.
It doesn't.
Actually he has this thing where what he believes what GOD wants overrides other people’s rights.

One of the sure ways to tell if your God is just a figment of your imagination is if your God hates all the same things you do.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 05:07 PM   #174
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You do realize you are just made up of cells, right?
Yes, and that fact alone does not make me a human being.

So if it’s not cells that makes someone a human being, what does?
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Old January 11th, 2018, 05:09 PM   #175
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Yes, and that fact alone does not make me a human being.

So if it’s not cells that makes someone a human being, what does?
You have been arguing for pages that cells are the difference.

Now you want to move the goalposts.

What magical thing makes you a "human being" beyond cells.

This should be interesting.....
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You have been arguing for pages that cells are the difference.

Now you want to move the goalposts.

What magical thing makes you a "human being" beyond cells.

This should be interesting.....
No, I have not. I have said that a fetus is JUST a clump of cells. Sensible (and possibly you) want to make the claim that a fetus is a human being who has rights. So my question to you is what makes a fetus a human being?

We agree that being made up of cells does not qualify something as a human being.
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DACA is a joke. Trump would do well to let this nonsense end in March. Any attempt at amnesty should be stopped, on any level. If these people want citizenship they should to back to their country of jurisdiction and apply like any other immigrant. If they have a gripe, let them take it up with their illegal alien parasite parents who put them in that position in the first place.
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I thought you wanted to defund the military.... never mind
The military should be on the border.
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Old January 11th, 2018, 06:30 PM   #179
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Please don't complain about abortion if you support deporting children to places where their lives are endangered...like Honduras for example! It seems anti-abortion extremism doesn't go beyond not allowing women to control reproduction, since sending real children to their deaths is being "strong on border and security issues."
Please, try to equate the two issues. Nothing is endangering the illegal alien children. That is, other than their parents.
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Hard to believe these two posts come from the same source:

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They are not citizens of the United States, let their own country protect them.
"their own country" who's democratically elected government was overthrown by a CIA-engineered coup! You want to control other countries, then take responsibility for the results.
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Stop killing babies in the womb, don't want a baby, don't get pregnant, simple as that. You are punishing a baby for your mistakes, and lack of control, and accountability. unless you are having sleep sex you know what you are doing and the risks involved you should not be able to kill a human being becuase you are irresponsible.
And, even in cases of rape now, fundagelicals are demanding no exceptions be made!
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Trump’s New ‘Pro-Life’ Adviser Wants To Ban Abortion Without ‘Abominable’ Exceptions

Trump’s pick of Dannenfelser to head his campaign’s anti-abortion effort shows just how willing he is to hand his reproductive rights policy over to the anti-choice movement. Dannenfelser is a savvy political operative, but she has also been very clear about her ultimate goal: to criminalize abortion in America, without exception.

When the House passed a bill last year banning abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy with a narrow exception for rape and incest survivors, Dannenfelser said that the bill’s rape exception was “regrettable” and “intellectually dishonest,” saying that she’d like to see all abortions banned at “any stage” of pregnancy. In a press conference, Dannenfelser said that although her group supported the legislation, “the rape exception is abominable.”

Dannenfelser has also held a hard line against abortion-ban exemptions for women whose health is at risk, saying in 2012 that her group would not support a candidate who supported health exceptions.

While Dannenfelser’s ultimate goal is to ban abortion without exception, she has said that the best way to achieve that goal is for anti-choice politicians to avoid discussing those exceptions. After Rep. Todd Akin made his infamous “legitimate rape” comment in 2013, the SBA list started training GOP lawmakers to avoid discussing why they want to withhold abortion rights from rape survivors.
Trump's New 'Pro-Life' Adviser Wants To Ban Abortion Without 'Abominable' Exceptions | Right Wing Watch
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