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Old January 12th, 2018, 12:11 PM   #251
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That's metaphysics &/or theology, an entirely different discussion from abortion.

Sorry, NO, it's not a different or separate issue when the anti-abortion crowd is shoving their religious beliefs down our throats and using those beliefs as justification.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 12:12 PM   #252
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THAT doesn't answer my question !!!! What do YOU think happens to the soul ??
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Old January 12th, 2018, 12:15 PM   #253
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You provided links to The American College of Pediatrics (ACP), a conservative advocacy group posing as a medical/scientific organization

Seems your opinion is wrong again....why do you deny science and medical professionals?

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The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a national organization of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals dedicated to the health and well-being of children.

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Old January 12th, 2018, 12:29 PM   #254
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The Jews tell us the fetus is a body under construction and the the soul doesn't enter the body until the first breath is drawn.

Here's a question !!

If there is an abortion, what happens to the soul that was occupy that fetus ??
It depends on which scenario you're working from.

If souls come direct from God or His stand-in, or some procedure He's set up, there are a couple of variations:

1. If God knows everything - that is, if our usual definition of God is reasonably correct, nothing happens. God being Who He is, He knows that that particular fetus won't become viable, & no soul is dispatched. That particular fetus is dropped from the rota, & the procedure cycles on apace.

2. If souls are distributed on a first-come, first-served basis, then the scratched fetus isn't assigned a soul, & the soul in train is assigned to the next available fetus (presumably viable).

Your results will vary, depending on which of the many assumptions you're operating under.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 12:54 PM   #255
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Seems your opinion is wrong again....why do you deny science and medical professionals?




https://www.acpeds.org/about-us
Well, if you read it on the Internet it MUST be true.

Again ACP membership is about 600 (Although Iíve seen estimates as low as 200).

AAP Membership is 60,000.

Why do you think one of these organizations has a membership almost 100 times that of the other organization?
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Old January 12th, 2018, 12:56 PM   #256
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Well, if you read it on the Internet it MUST be true.

Again ACP membership is about 600 (Although Iíve seen estimates as low as 200).

AAP Membership is 60,000.

Why do you think one of these organizations has a membership almost 100 times that of the other organization?
Is that the best ya got?

Keep moving those goal posts. Apparently, that is all you have at this point.
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Is that the best ya got?

Keep moving those goal posts. Apparently, that is all you have at this point.
Itís better than what youíve got.

But once again youíre just doing what you do best. Evade, evade, evade
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Old January 12th, 2018, 01:08 PM   #258
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Itís better than what youíve got.

But once again youíre just doing what you do best. Evade, evade, evade
I have provided links to medical professionals, links to the definition of "fetus" that includes describing it as "human".

You have provided zippo. Nothing.
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I have provided links to medical professionals, links to the definition of "fetus" that includes describing it as "human".

You have provided zippo. Nothing.
Yah. The problem is, the controlling law in the US is Roe v. Wade. That's the definition to work with - & that definition is of a person, in the legal sense. A non-viable fetus is not a person, & therefore the abortion of a non-viable fetus is not murder.

Everything else is just dressing on the stage.
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Yah. The problem is, the controlling law in the US is Roe v. Wade. That's the definition to work with - & that definition is of a person, in the legal sense. A non-viable fetus is not a person, & therefore the abortion of a non-viable fetus is not murder.

Everything else is just dressing on the stage.
Man charged with murdering fetus.

I can bring a lot of these if you like.

Clarksville man charged with murdering girlfriend and fetus
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