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Old January 10th, 2018, 05:27 PM   #71
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Throughout Scripture, God affirms the the value of every human life—from children in the womb to the elderly. Let these Bible verses inspire you about how valuable you are in the sight of the One who made you and gave you life.
Psalm 139:13-16
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13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
Jeremiah 1:5
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5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Psalm 127:3-5
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3 Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him. 4 Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one’s youth. 5 Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court.
Genesis 1:27
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27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
Psalm 8:5-7
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5 You have made them a little lower than the angelsand crowned them with glory and honor. 6 You made them rulers over the works of your hands; you put everything under their feet: 7 all flocks and herds, and the animals of the wild,

Job 31:15
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15 Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form us both within our mothers?
Psalm 22:10
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10 From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.
Isaiah 49:15
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15 “Can a mother forget the baby at her breast and have no compassion on the child she has borne? Though she may forget, I will not forget you!

There really is no tenable position for the pro choice crowd.
Wait a minute, you want to deprive women of the right to decide what happens to their body on the basis of some primitive mystical mumbo jumbo?

Get real, if there is a God and He doesn't want abortion, let him write it in the sky....If he can't be bothered, then it's only haters and misogynists.

Unless, to avoid unwanted pregnancy, you allow panels composed of women to select men for castration. You know, sauce for the goose....
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Old January 10th, 2018, 05:33 PM   #72
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Once again, don’t know nor do I care.
Then go to another thread.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 05:38 PM   #73
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Wait a minute, you want to deprive women of the right to decide what happens to their body on the basis of some primitive mystical mumbo jumbo?

Get real, if there is a God and He doesn't want abortion, let him write it in the sky....If he can't be bothered, then it's only haters and misogynists.

Unless, to avoid unwanted pregnancy, you allow panels composed of women to select men for castration. You know, sauce for the goose....
For the last time, the woman had a choice knowing the possibilities not to have sex, just like the man, are you saying that people do not choose whether they have sex or not, I mean do they trip into one another.

Oh there come the names to try and shame us into silence haters misogynists it truly is sad the lengths people go to, so they can defend killing babies in the womb.

Your statement about castrating men was especially silly and childish.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 05:54 PM   #74
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For the last time, the woman had a choice knowing the possibilities not to have sex, just like the man, are you saying that people do not choose whether they have sex or not, I mean do they trip into one another.

Oh there come the names to try and shame us into silence haters misogynists it truly is sad the lengths people go to, so they can defend killing babies in the womb.

Your statement about castrating men was especially silly and childish.
And this is why it's so clear that your main purpose is to punish women for having sex, because you hate women. Why should she forfeit her rights?
You want a group of men to decide what should be done with a woman's body.
That would be exactly the same as a panel of women, deciding what should be done with a man's body.
But you see men as superior, with more rights, and the right to control women.
That's not the future.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 06:43 PM   #75
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What was the word for “abortion” during the time of Jesus?
What ever the Aramaic word for "none of your fucking business" was.

MEN didn't deal with such things. It was strictly a woman's issue and women dealt with it. Since the beginning of time women have known how to deal with unwanted pregnancies. Thinking they didn't is either being obtuse or delusional.

The fact that men didn't deal with it, doesn't mean they were aware of it.
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Old January 10th, 2018, 06:48 PM   #76
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Don't be ridiculous,
The food restrictions in Leviticus were placed on the children of Israel as a test of their obedience just as was circumcision, not for health reasons. In Acts 10:9-15 God canceled the dietary restrictions that had been imposed on the children of Israel in Leviticus 11. All animals, shellfish, and seafood are now clean.

The rule against wearing different types of fabric was not a moral law. There is nothing inherently wrong with weaving linen and wool together. In fact, the ephod of the high priest was made of linen and dyed thread (Exodus 28:6–8; 39:4–5). The dyed thread would have been made of wool. This fact is probably the key to understanding the prohibition. The ephod of the high priest was the only garment that could be woven of linen and wool. No one else was allowed to have such a garment. Apparently, this rule was to place some distance between the high priest and the people, with the ultimate purpose of reminding Israel of how holy God truly is

In Colossians 2:16–17 the apostle Paul declares, “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.” We are no longer commanded to cease working on the Sabbath, nor is Sunday now the “Christian Sabbath.” Although many Christians prefer to take Sunday off and spend at least part of it in corporate worship, working on Sunday is not sin. Many Christians, such as doctors and nurses, have no choice but to work on Sunday and, as a society, we should be very grateful to them. But Christians who work on Sunday should do so with the understanding that worship is not limited to any one day of the week but is to be an ongoing part of their lives.
Working on Sunday is definitely not a sin. Working on Sunday is not prohibited in the Bible. The idea that Christians should not be working on Sunday comes from a misunderstanding of Old Testament Sabbath-keeping for the Israelites and its relation to Sunday worship for Christians. According to Exodus 20:8–11, the Sabbath is the seventh day of the week on which the Israelites were to rest in remembrance that God created the universe in six days and then “rested” on the seventh day. “Keeping the Sabbath holy” was defined as not working on the Sabbath.

And as if to PROVE MY POINT !!!!!!!! Here we are with a LOOOOOONG explanation as to WHY the rules of the old testament (EXCEPT THOSE YOU WISH TO IMPOSE ON OHTER PEOPLE) are no longer relevant.

You are absolutely fucking hilarious !!!! Go to a kosher deli and try to order a HAM SANDWICH !!!! Or some shrimp salad !!!
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Old January 10th, 2018, 06:49 PM   #77
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Jesus is God
Throughout Scripture, God affirms the the value of every human life—from children in the womb to the elderly. Let these Bible verses inspire you about how valuable you are in the sight of the One who made you and gave you life.
Psalm 139:13-16
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13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
Jeremiah 1:5
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5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Psalm 127:3-5
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3 Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him. 4 Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one’s youth. 5 Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. They will not be put to shame when they contend with their opponents in court.
Genesis 1:27
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27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
Psalm 8:5-7
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5 You have made them a little lower than the angelsand crowned them with glory and honor. 6 You made them rulers over the works of your hands; you put everything under their feet: 7 all flocks and herds, and the animals of the wild,

Job 31:15
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15 Did not he who made me in the womb make them? Did not the same one form us both within our mothers?
Psalm 22:10
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10 From birth I was cast on you; from my mother’s womb you have been my God.
Isaiah 49:15
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15 “Can a mother forget the baby at her breast and have no compassion on the child she has borne? Though she may forget, I will not forget you!

There really is no tenable position for the pro choice crowd.
Not one of your examples is from the NT.

Abortion was practiced when Jesus was on Earth. He never mentioned it, though he did talk about little children, and about the humility of a child:
And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
But he never, not once, spoke of abortion which you consider to be one of the gravest of sins.

Now think about it. Why would Jesus fail to speak to one of the gravest of sins? Why would the Apostles fail to speak to one of the gravest of sins?

In your belief system, why would God fail to speak to one of the gravest of sins?
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Old January 10th, 2018, 06:55 PM   #78
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Since Christians equate abortion with murder, Jesus most certainly talked about it.

Sorry for your ignorance.
Keep your pity. I don't want it.

Jesus never equated abortion with murder because he never spoke of it. Prideful humans looking to "lift themselves up" by putting others down equated abortion with murder.
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It is an idiotic statement so I am not surprised you will continue, frankly I am not worried what you think I care about. Yes a woman has a legal right to murder her baby, congrats on supporting the wholesale murder of babies in the womb. Maybe her choice should have included not getting pregnant.
Jesus never mentioned it.
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Please don't complain about abortion if you support deporting children to places where their lives are endangered...like Honduras for example! It seems anti-abortion extremism doesn't go beyond not allowing women to control reproduction, since sending real children to their deaths is being "strong on border and security issues."
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