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Old January 11th, 2018, 06:52 AM   #11
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Somethings not right alright, and I know what it is.

Last night on TRMS, Rachel Maddow highlighted a very interesting piece of the recently released Fusion GPS transcript.

Maddow notes, on page 138, the following exchange between Chief Oversight Counsel Heather Sawyer, and Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson:

Q. I'm going to return you back to discussing the work at Fusion that Christopher Steele had done during the Presidential election of 2016. It has been widely reported and Mr. Steele has acknowledged that he created 16 memos before the election between the time period of June of 2016 and October of 2016. Is that accurate?

A. To the best of my knowledge, that's accurate.

Q. And then he also has acknowledged -- Mr. Steele also has acknowledged and it's been reported that there was one additional memo that came after the election in December of 2016. Is that also accurate?

A. I think what he has said is that -- yeah, that's basically accurate. What he said was that the series of memos that were published by BuzzFeed, that's the package that you're talking about. (Exhibit 3 was marked for identification.

Q. And so I'm going to show you what we will just mark as Exhibit 3 for identification purposes. So Exhibit 3 that I've just given you is a document that was produced to the committee by your lawyers, and they had explained to us that this was a document originally posted by BuzzFeed in January of 2017 and it has Bates numbers down in the right-hand corner. The first one is CLMS-JC-00041391 and then the last one is number 41425. If you could just take a look at that. Is that what we were just discussing as the series of memos posted by BuzzFeed and created by Mr. Steele?

A. Yes, it is.

Q. Can you explain for us just what -- does this represent the 16 memos that would have occurred between June and October of 2016 that Mr. Steele created?

A. These are the memos that he created under the engagement and then this extra one that is appended. I never actually numbered -- totaled them up, but these are the ones I'm familiar with.

Q. And does this represent the entire universe of memos that Mr. Steele created as part of this particular engagement for you?

A. To the best of the my knowledge as part of this engagement, this is it.


Maddow than proceeds to link this line of questioning to a New York Times report that was released this week.

Maddow: If you look, and I’m not kidding, 26 paragraphs down, in their profile of Glenn Simpson from earlier this week, you will notice this intriguing little nugget.

Quote: “But the work has not stopped. Fusion continues to look into ties between Mr. Trump and Russia, according to several people briefed on the research. Mr. Simpson’s specific areas of focus, and information about any current benefactors, are closely guarded.”

It stands to reason, then, that Fusion GPS is still not finished with their Trump/Russia investigation, and that they have another donor funding their investigation. Things just got a hell of a lot more interesting.
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The transcript of Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee released to the public by Dianne Feinstein is both the entire congressional investigation in brief, and a revealing insight into why Republicans have been so anxious to keep this information under lock and key.

Every question asked by Republicans in the meeting—every single question—focused on trying to find information they could use to demean and defame the witness. They wanted to paint Fusion GPS as a “Democratic operation.” They were determined to turn Christopher Steele’s visit to the FBI into a partisan act. They used every moment of their time to find something Fusion had done wrong, or that Steele had done wrong … some way that both the company and the information they had gathered could be dismissed. In a day-long interview that was supposed to further the investigation into connections between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, no Republican expressed the slightest interest in that topic.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...he-Republicans
And this is exactly the behavior that led to the German government becoming so dysfunctional Hitler was able to take control. Germany was torn apart by reactionary government and power plays that had little to do governing and everything to do with power. This is the direct result of education for technology minus the liberal education that is essential to democracy. It is the result of education that makes people specialist, instead of generalist and externalizes authority instead of internalizing authority.

I wish I knew how to explain what education has to do with our changed political reality in words that stimulated thinking about the connection between Trump being our president and the political power plays and education. The Obama administration and focus on preventing him from achieving anything should have been a wake-up call.
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Shews13, do you really understand what I said? I think this is very serious. I think it has everything to do with why people are insulting each other instead of addressing the issues. The masses now lack critical thinking skills and they are being reactionary instead of thinking things through. In this thread, I see insults but not reasonable arguments. There is a lot of this and no this
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Shews13, do you really understand what I said? I think this is very serious. I think it has everything to do with why people are insulting each other instead of addressing the issues. The masses now lack critical thinking skills and they are being reactionary instead of thinking things through. In this thread, I see insults but not reasonable arguments. There is a lot of this and no this
Yes, it is very serious. When a President of the United States has colluded with the enemy, obstructed justice, laundered Russian mob money, that is very serious business. Add the fact that members of the legislative branch are conspiring to and abet those acts makes it even more troubling.
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The transcript of Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee released to the public by Dianne Feinstein is both the entire congressional investigation in brief, and a revealing insight into why Republicans have been so anxious to keep this information under lock and key.

Every question asked by Republicans in the meeting—every single question—focused on trying to find information they could use to demean and defame the witness. They wanted to paint Fusion GPS as a “Democratic operation.” They were determined to turn Christopher Steele’s visit to the FBI into a partisan act. They used every moment of their time to find something Fusion had done wrong, or that Steele had done wrong … some way that both the company and the information they had gathered could be dismissed. In a day-long interview that was supposed to further the investigation into connections between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, no Republican expressed the slightest interest in that topic.

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Diane Feinstein was Mayor of San Francisco many moons ago. San Francisco was a mess back then and still is.
The bravado is gone. Beneath the mountain of tweets, and repeating of the words no collusion like it some kind of positive thinking mantra is fear. Donald Trump is scared. Trump thinks that he can negotiate his way to a better deal with Mueller by saying maybe, or claiming that there is no need for an interview, but the Special Counsel holds all of the cards. Mueller doesn’t have to make a deal. He can always subpoena Trump and force him to testify.
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The bravado is gone. Beneath the mountain of tweets, and repeating of the words no collusion like it some kind of positive thinking mantra is fear. Donald Trump is scared. Trump thinks that he can negotiate his way to a better deal with Mueller by saying maybe, or claiming that there is no need for an interview, but the Special Counsel holds all of the cards. Mueller doesn’t have to make a deal. He can always subpoena Trump and force him to testify.
If and when Trump makes a deposition and he puts his left hand on the Bible and holds up his right hand and lies, perjury. Perjury is a felony and Trump can be removed from office.
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Yes, it is very serious. When a President of the United States has colluded with the enemy, obstructed justice, laundered Russian mob money, that is very serious business. Add the fact that members of the legislative branch are conspiring to and abet those acts makes it even more troubling.
What proof is there that a President has "colluded with the enemy"??..or "obstructed justice??" or laundered Russian mob money??....and what members of the legislative branch are "conspiring to aide and abet those acts??"....Lot of serious charges there bunky....got anything to back that up??
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What proof is there that a President has "colluded with the enemy"??..or "obstructed justice??" or laundered Russian mob money??....and what members of the legislative branch are "conspiring to aide and abet those acts??"....Lot of serious charges there bunky....got anything to back that up??

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What proof is there that a President has "colluded with the enemy"??..or "obstructed justice??" or laundered Russian mob money??....and what members of the legislative branch are "conspiring to aide and abet those acts??"....Lot of serious charges there bunky....got anything to back that up??
Oh theres plenty of circumstantial evidence of that now. Special counsel Mueller is gathering the exculpatory evidence of that as we speak, which looks to be at least as extensive as the circumstantial evidence. With four scalps under his belt so far, and more to come as others have now come forward to cooperate, he'll be getting to Trump family scalps a lot sooner than i'm sure you're comfortable with. Bunky.
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