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Old January 20th, 2018, 01:09 PM   #61
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I've never tried to sell anything online...even with Ebay, so I don't know offhand, but a lot of people trying to run small online enterprizes, say that it's getting harder to make a profit for themselves after the platform they do business through takes their cut.

What I have noticed is there are over a hundred pages of doll clothes. I think it is highly unlikely to sell anything if one's ad is in the middle of this mass of people attempting to sell doll clothes. I wish I were smarter so I could figure out how to have a successful on-line store like Ebay, and then help people wanting to start cottage businesses make their businesses successful. Perhaps rotating the position everyone is in so everyone had a shot at the front page.

My motive comes from living in a small town where there just were not enough jobs for people. I think we can have very pleasant communities if we can figure out how to generate an income by marketing outside of the small community.

Listening to college lectures about history is helpful in thinking about success. A few leaders were very successful in encouraging the success of the most people. This is in contrast to being focused on one's own success while the peasants starve to death.
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I've never tried to sell anything online...even with Ebay, so I don't know offhand, but a lot of people trying to run small online enterprizes, say that it's getting harder to make a profit for themselves after the platform they do business through takes their cut.

What I have noticed is there are over a hundred pages of doll clothes. I think it is highly unlikely to sell anything if one's ad is in the middle of this mass of people attempting to sell doll clothes. I wish I were smarter so I could figure out how to have a successful on-line store like Ebay, and then help people wanting to start cottage businesses make their businesses successful. Perhaps rotating the position everyone is in so everyone had a shot at the front page.

My motive comes from living in a small town where there just were not enough jobs for people. I think we can have very pleasant communities if we can figure out how to generate an income by marketing outside of the small community.

Listening to college lectures about history is helpful in thinking about success. A few leaders were very successful in encouraging the success of the most people. This is in contrast to being focused on one's own success while the peasants starve to death.


I am not sure but I think the founder of Walmart began with a good philosophy for helping people succeed. For sure Milton Hershey of the Hershey candy bar company used his profits to create a very pleasant town around his chocolate factory. I am not understanding why more successful business people are not doing the same.
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Old January 24th, 2018, 09:30 AM   #63
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What I have noticed is there are over a hundred pages of doll clothes. I think it is highly unlikely to sell anything if one's ad is in the middle of this mass of people attempting to sell doll clothes. I wish I were smarter so I could figure out how to have a successful on-line store like Ebay, and then help people wanting to start cottage businesses make their businesses successful. Perhaps rotating the position everyone is in so everyone had a shot at the front page.

My motive comes from living in a small town where there just were not enough jobs for people. I think we can have very pleasant communities if we can figure out how to generate an income by marketing outside of the small community.

Listening to college lectures about history is helpful in thinking about success. A few leaders were very successful in encouraging the success of the most people. This is in contrast to being focused on one's own success while the peasants starve to death.


I am not sure but I think the founder of Walmart began with a good philosophy for helping people succeed. For sure Milton Hershey of the Hershey candy bar company used his profits to create a very pleasant town around his chocolate factory. I am not understanding why more successful business people are not doing the same.
First, regarding Walmart or the Hershey Company, these may have started as 'small businesses' but under our system nothing stops Sam Walton from developing a better and cheaper distribution system than the average retailer, and using it to try to drive everyone else out of business and having a monopoly...actually, that's something that's happening right now to Walmart, as Amazon is attempting to become the all-consuming monopoly that will own every supplier of everything we want to purchase in the future!

At the local level, talk of communism or capitalism breaks down and becomes irrelevant, because...in your example of doll clothes, this is how the first libertarian theorists like John Stuart Mill actually envisioned how markets function. During Mill's time and even Adam Smith, there were extremely few corporations or even large companies. Industrialization was at its beginning, and the concept of an employer having hundreds and then thousands of wage slaves working for him was something that unbalanced their predictions about how markets should and would function in the future. The sad thing is that the libertarian right still spends all its time railing about "Leviathan," the power of government...even though in our time, government has become completely overrun and coopted by private corporate power!
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First, regarding Walmart or the Hershey Company, these may have started as 'small businesses' but under our system nothing stops Sam Walton from developing a better and cheaper distribution system than the average retailer, and using it to try to drive everyone else out of business and having a monopoly...actually, that's something that's happening right now to Walmart, as Amazon is attempting to become the all-consuming monopoly that will own every supplier of everything we want to purchase in the future!

At the local level, talk of communism or capitalism breaks down and becomes irrelevant, because...in your example of doll clothes, this is how the first libertarian theorists like John Stuart Mill actually envisioned how markets function. During Mill's time and even Adam Smith, there were extremely few corporations or even large companies. Industrialization was at its beginning, and the concept of an employer having hundreds and then thousands of wage slaves working for him was something that unbalanced their predictions about how markets should and would function in the future. The sad thing is that the libertarian right still spends all its time railing about "Leviathan," the power of government...even though in our time, government has become completely overrun and coopted by private corporate power!
Yes, industrialization demands a large supply of resources and a large market, so our governments are pushed to control the world, to assure our countries have access to the resources and markets. As a small person has little chance of competing, so too the small nations that lack global power have little chance of competing.

More than ever, I think we all need to look at population control and controlling for living within our means. This requires much more thinking than ever before. It requires a population that understands the limits of growth and is agreeable to staying within the limits. Or we can let nature manage things with famines, disease, and wars, and explain this as a god punishing us for our sins, or Satan unleashed on earth, or the unpreventable consequences of humans born in sin, blaming ourselves instead of a god or Satan. We can call places of natural beauty shite holes because of what inferior humans do, and make laws to keep others out of our country and thank God for blessing us. Sometimes I think our opinion of ourselves as thinking animals is overrated.

So if Walmart's lowest paid workers get a 22% raise, will that disqualify them for government assistance? Will it put these people in the economic bracket for buying homes and setting money aside for their retirement?

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