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Old January 11th, 2018, 04:56 PM   #11
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You ladies know that we had no immigration from 1921 to 1965??..
Nope! Only ignorant, misinformed and very delusionsl rightwingnuts could manage to believe that fraudulent twaddle. The myths you gullibly swallow, Gormless, are mind-bogglingly absurd.

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Immediately after the end of World War I (1914–18) and into the early 1920s, Congress changed the nation's basic policy about immigration. The National Origins Formula of 1921 (and its final form in 1924) not only restricted the number of immigrants who might enter the United States, but also assigned slots according to quotas based on national origins. A complicated piece of legislation, it essentially gave preference to immigrants from Central, Northern and Western Europe, severely limiting the numbers from Russia and Southern Europe, and declared all potential immigrants from Asia unworthy of entry into the United States.

The legislation excluded the Western Hemisphere from the quota system, and the 1920s ushered in the penultimate era of U.S. immigration history. Immigrants could and did move quite freely from Mexico, the Caribbean (including Jamaica, Barbados, and Haiti), and other parts of Central and South America. This era, which reflected the application of the 1924 legislation, lasted until 1965. During those 40 years, the United States began to admit, case by case, limited numbers of refugees. Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany before World War II, Jewish Holocaust survivors after the war, non-Jewish displaced persons fleeing Communist rule in Central Europe and Russia, Hungarians seeking refuge after their failed uprising in 1956, and Cubans after the 1960 revolution managed to find haven in the United States when their plight moved the collective conscience of America, but the basic immigration law remained in place.

In 1945, the War Brides Act allowed foreign-born wives of U.S. citizens who had served in the U.S. Armed Forces to immigrate to the United States. In 1946, The War Brides Act was extended to include the fiancés of American soldiers. In 1946, the Luce-Celler Act extended the right to become naturalized citizens to from the newly independent nation of The Philippines and to Asian Indians. At the end of World War II, "regular" immigration almost immediately increased under the official national origins quota system as refugees from war torn Europe began immigrating to the U.S. After the war, there were jobs for nearly everyone who wanted one, when most women employed during the war went back into the home. From 1941 to 1950, 1,035,000 people immigrated to the U.S., including 226,000 from Germany, 139,000 from the UK, 171,000 from Canada, 60,000 from Mexico and 57,000 from Italy.[50]

The Displaced Persons Act of 1948 finally allowed the displaced people of World War II to start immigrating.[51] Some 200,000 Europeans and 17,000 orphans displaced by World War II were initially allowed to immigrate to the United States outside of immigration quotas. President Harry S. Truman signed the first Displaced Persons (DP) act on June 25, 1948, allowing entry for 200,000 DPs, then followed with the more accommodating second DP act on June 16, 1950, allowing entry for another 200,000. This quota, including acceptance of 55,000 Volksdeutschen, required sponsorship for all immigrants. The American program was the most notoriously bureaucratic of all the DP programs and much of the humanitarian effort was undertaken by charitable organizations, such as the Lutheran World Federation as well as other ethnic groups. Along with an additional quota of 200,000 granted in 1953 and more in succeeding years, a total of nearly 600,000 refugees were allowed into the country outside the quota system, second only to Israel's 650,000.

In 1950, the invasion of South Korea by North Korea started the Korean War and left a war-ravaged Korea behind. There was little U.S. immigration due to the national origin quotas of the immigration law. Significant Korean immigration began in 1965 after revision of the law, totaling 848,000 by 2004. In 1952, the McCarran Walter Immigration Act affirmed the national-origins quota system of 1924 and limited total annual immigration to one-sixth of one percent of the population of the continental United States in 1920, or 175,455. This exempted the spouses and children of U.S. citizens and people born in the Western Hemisphere from the quota. In 1953, the Refugee Relief Act extended refugee status to non-Europeans.

(source: Wikipedia - History of immigration to the United States)

Yup, that sure is some "no immigration from 1921 to 1965" right there all right, eh Gormless?










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..Ted (the Swimmer) Kennedy fixed that for us....
So, you are part of the cult that has been taught to hate the Kennedy family. A sad affliction. The crackpot myths you swallow about that subject are as absurd and fraudulent as your totally and pathetically wrong myths about immigration.

The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 (H.R. 2580; Pub.L. 89–236, 79 Stat. 911, enacted June 30, 1968), also known as the Hart–Celler Act,[1] changed the way quotas were allocated by ending the National Origins Formula that had been in place in the United States since the Emergency Quota Act of 1921. Representative Emanuel Celler of New York proposed the bill, Senator Philip Hart of Michigan co-sponsored it, and Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts helped to promote it.

The Hart–Celler Act abolished the quota system based on national origins that had been American immigration policy since the 1920s. The 1965 Act marked a change from past U.S. policy which had discriminated against non-northern Europeans.[2] In removing racial and national barriers the Act would significantly, and unintentionally, alter the demographic mix in the U.S.[2] The new law maintained the per-country limits, but also created preference visa categories that focused on immigrants' skills and family relationships with citizens or U.S. residents. The bill set numerical restrictions on visas at 170,000 per year, with a per-country-of-origin quota. However, immediate relatives of U.S. citizens and "special immigrants" had no restrictions.[1]

The Hart–Celler Act of 1965 marked a radical break from the immigration policies of the past. Previous laws restricted immigration from Asia and Africa, and gave preference to northern and western Europeans over southern and eastern Europeans.[3] In the 1960s, the United States faced both foreign and domestic pressures to change its nation-based formula, which was regarded as a system that discriminated based on an individual's place of birth. Abroad, former military allies and new independent nations aimed to delegitimize discriminatory immigration, naturalization and regulations through international organizations like the United Nations.[4] In the United States, the national-based formula had been under scrutiny for a number of years. In 1952, President Truman had directed the Commission on Immigration and Naturalization to conduct an investigation and produce a report on the current immigration regulations. The report, "Whom We Shall Welcome", served as the blueprint for the Hart–Celler Act.[5] At the height of the Civil Rights Movement the restrictive immigration laws were seen as an embarrassment. President Lyndon Johnson signed the 1965 act into law at the foot of the Statue of Liberty.

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Old January 11th, 2018, 05:01 PM   #12
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That is still no excuse for a sitting prez to speak like that.
Well, he's not lacking in candor.
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Well, he's not lacking in candor.
He is summing up that some folks come from less than fortunate circumstances. He could have said so, instead of turning it into a mockery.
However, what I don't understand is that so many who come from places that are less than desirable turn their neighborhoods into just such places.
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That"s why I like Trump.....He calls 'em as he sees 'em....

You ladies know that we had no immigration from 1921 to 1965??....Ted (the Swimmer) Kennedy fixed that for us....
Like when he “called” it about the US selling F-52’s to Norway?
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Old January 11th, 2018, 05:17 PM   #15
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Like when he “called” it about the US selling F-52’s to Norway?
Yes. Just like Obama's 57 state faux pas.

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Hart-Celler, the ruination of America.
We aren't ruining it. We're actively destroying it!
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Yes. Just like Obama's 57 state faux pas.

https://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp
Lets focus on what is important.
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Yes. Just like Obama's 57 state faux pas.

https://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp
And the Right Wingers had a collective stroke over that. Trump says dumbshit stuff on almost an hourly basis and nothing gets said by those people.
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And the Right Wingers had a collective stroke over that. Trump says dumbshit stuff on almost an hourly basis and nothing gets said by those people.
Doesn't matter. Presidents say stupid shit all the time. How stupid it is depends on how far away from the fence a person spends their time gossiping about politics.
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