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Old February 11th, 2018, 01:32 PM   #61
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1. My post was confirmed by the Pentagon https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...uclear-torpedo

after being made public by the BBC


Russia reveals giant nuclear torpedo in state TV 'leak' - BBC News

But obviously you have knowledge that the NSA and CIA need about Russian weapons programs, or at least you think you doo doo

The fact is that Vlad is scared shitless about our newest anti missile missiles, which is why I bought Raytheon
ABM systems only make sense to thwart a rogue like Kim.

They are absolutely impotent against Russia. Ditto for Russian ABM systems.
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ABM systems only make sense to thwart a rogue like Kim.

They are absolutely impotent against Russia. Ditto for Russian ABM systems.
You have facts that a Russian missile can not be shot down of course....

Because otherwise you are just making stuff up again.


US and Poland strike $10.5 billion missile defense deal | News | DW | 18.11.2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/w...e-defense.html
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You have facts that a Russian missile can not be shot down of course....

Because otherwise you are just making stuff up again.


US and Poland strike $10.5 billion missile defense deal | News | DW | 18.11.2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/w...e-defense.html
It's numbers. We and the Russians have WAY more missiles than the other side has ABMs. And each of the missiles can have multiple independently targetable warheads. And missiles can and do carry decoys and various means to confuse an ABM's guidance system.
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It's numbers. We and the Russians have WAY more missiles than the other side has ABMs. And each of the missiles can have multiple independently targetable warheads. And missiles can and do carry decoys and various means to confuse an ABM's guidance system.
An anti missile system does not target warheads, it targets the missile, perhaps even over the country that launched it, Poland is one such launching point for the USA. The Russian torpedo is also being described as a sort of mini sub that could sail independently to a location and be detonated by whatever means fit.
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ABM systems only make sense to thwart a rogue like Kim.

They are absolutely impotent against Russia. Ditto for Russian ABM systems.
Actually, the anti missile system we have deployed is probably ineffective against the missiles that North Korea will develop.
Our ABM systems rely on a spin stabilized warhead, we deploy a smart pebble to collide with the warhead, North Korea does not have the spin stabilized warhead that Russia has, and than China now has, after obtaining the plans from the first Bush Administration, and testing the design six months into the Clinton administration, designed to precisely target land based ICBM silos, North Korea would be happy with an air burst over the Los Angeles area, the warhead will not be spin stabilized, it will be like a knuckleball when it hits the atmosphere, it will be almost impossible to intercept.

Russian warheads will be too sophisticated for our ABMs to hit, they will be steerable in the final stage, with a center of gravity that is off center, that can be oriented to make a non ballistic entry, again, impossible to intercept.

There are so many ways to defeat an ABM system, especially one that has only distinguished warheads from decoys when the decoys were ten times the size of the warheads and painted a different color.

Lets hope that Little Kim will develop a spin stabilized warhead, and not use decoys, or if he does, makes then ten times the size of the warhead, and paints them a different color.
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An anti missile system does not target warheads, it targets the missile, perhaps even over the country that launched it, Poland is one such launching point for the USA. The Russian torpedo is also being described as a sort of mini sub that could sail independently to a location and be detonated by whatever means fit.
I see you have no idea how abm systems work.

The torpedo system the Russians actually have developed and deplyed that we have no defense against is the shkval (squall) supercavitating torpedo which travels underwater at 250 mph.

It's an anti submarine weapon that is fired in the direction of an incoming torpedo to force the enemy sub to take evasive action that will break the control wires to the incoming torpedo.

Iran has developed a version called the Hoot.
Germany was working on a version called the Barracuda,
And the US has an unnamed prototype in development
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I see you have no idea how abm systems work.

The torpedo system the Russians actually have developed and deplyed that we have no defense against is the shkval (squall) supercavitating torpedo which travels underwater at 250 mph.

It's an anti submarine weapon that is fired in the direction of an incoming torpedo to force the enemy sub to take evasive action that will break the control wires to the incoming torpedo.

Iran has developed a version called the Hoot.
Germany was working on a version called the Barracuda,
And the US has an unnamed prototype in development
My God, the new Russian 100mt torpedo is actually a type of mini sub and it need not travel fast at all as no one will know that it is there. Once deployed it can wait for years if need be. It's all speculation of course.

Except to you who are zipping back and fourth between past and present with ease.
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An anti missile system does not target warheads, it targets the missile, perhaps even over the country that launched it, Poland is one such launching point for the USA.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Anti Ballistic Missiles do not target the missile. There is the inconvenience of time and space. The missile has already broken stratosphere by the time you can initiate launch protocols for your defense missile. Interception is ALWAYS against incoming.



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The Russian torpedo is also being described as a sort of mini sub that could sail independently to a location and be detonated by whatever means fit.
It is a retarded idea from the 1950's.

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Old February 12th, 2018, 02:44 AM   #69
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You have no idea what you are talking about. Anti Ballistic Missiles do not target the missile. There is the inconvenience of time and space. The missile has already broken stratosphere by the time you can initiate launch protocols for your defense missile. Interception is ALWAYS against incoming.




It is a retarded idea from the 1950's.
Kid, the plans for how Americas newest missiles are not on the firkin internet. What you are looking at is a mental child's drawing. Also, are you aware that tomahawk missiles are being refitted to be interceptors, I bought the contractor
The one thing that is always true in these cases, is that the fool who reads Wikipedia knows everything, that some other fool posted to Wikipedia.

So kid if that diagram was real it would have been removed by the NSA, CIA ect.

Did it ever occur to your mind that interceptors in Poland can never do what you described?

Next kid
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