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Old February 8th, 2018, 05:41 PM   #21
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So even if you want talk about rate, what I said was fact and you called my factual statement "total bullshit". When in fact it was correct.

Maybe you could discuss less childishly.
Well, I would tend to think that even a child wouldn't confuse one person here with another person.

Hmmm, so what would that make you?

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Old February 8th, 2018, 06:46 PM   #22
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Well, I would tend to think that even a child wouldn't confuse one person here with another person.

Hmmm, so what would that make you?

Sorry my bad. You responded for him so...
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Old February 8th, 2018, 06:51 PM   #23
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Yes, it was colder 20,000 years ago.

However, it is the rate of change of global temperature in recent years that appears to be rather unique, particularly when looking back at the earth's climate during the past 22k+ years.

And that rate of change of global temperature in recent years, relative to the rate of change of global temperature during the past 22k+ years, is quite interestingly displayed here.:

https://www.popsci.com/xkcd-earth-av...imeline#page-3
Its a funny chart. With some arbitrary middle temperature of 0 degrees With the distant past in the negative and our time positive. I suppose we are to believe that that 0 degree point is some optimal temperature point to not deviate from. Is that the point? Its silly.
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Old February 8th, 2018, 07:38 PM   #24
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Rightists love to talk about "bias."

Talk about this.
Dem senators demand EPA chief recuse himself on clean power plan rulemaking


Dem senators demand EPA chief recuse himself on clean power plan rulemaking
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Four Democratic senators are calling on Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Scott Pruitt to recuse himself from overseeing any rulemaking regarding the repeal of an Obama-era rule on carbon dioxide emissions, because of his "closed mind."

In a formal comment submitted Wednesday to the docket for the repeal of the Clean Power Plan (CPP), Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) and Ed Markey (D-Mass.) wrote that Pruitt was unfit to oversee the repeal of CPP because of his history of lawsuits against the plan and the Obama administration when Pruitt was attorney general of Oklahoma.

“The evidence for Pruitt’s inalterably closed mind on CPP rulemaking is overwhelming,” the senators wrote. “It falls into three categories: (1) his deep and wide financial ties to the fossil fuel industry which is ferociously opposed to the CPP; (2) his status as a previous petitioner suing the EPA to block the CPP; and (3) his numerous statements denouncing the CPP, questioning the ability to regulate carbon emissions under the [Clean Air Act] as the CPP proposes to do, and casting doubt on climate science.”

The four argued that the law makes clear that when an administrator is proven to have bias he should be recused.

"When clear and convincing evidence exists that a regulator possesses an inalterably closed mind about a subject covered by a rulemaking, s/he is not permitted to participate in the rulemaking," they wrote. "Pruitt’s extensive involvement in CPP litigation means that he cannot be impartial in CPP rulemaking and therefore must recuse himself."
Dem senators demand EPA chief recuse himself on clean power plan rulemaking | TheHill

Do ya think he'll recuse himself?


I believe that he was appointed because of his perceived bias.


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Old February 9th, 2018, 11:33 AM   #25
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Its been warming for the past 20 thousand years.
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Total bullshit. And very retarded!
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Was it warmer or colder 20,000 years ago?
Twenty thousand years ago the Earth was still in the depths of the last 'ice age', or period of heavy glaciation, so of course it was colder. However that is not what you just claimed. You stated that the planet has been "warming for the past 20 thousand years". That is total bullshit. The Earth started warming up out of the last 'ice age' about eighteen thousand years ago and it had fully warmed and the ice sheets had melted off and the sea levels had risen to about their modern levels and the planet had entered into the Holocene interglacial period around eleven thousand years ago. After which temperatures rose slightly and peaked from about eight thousand years ago to five thousand years ago (Holocene Thermal Maximum), after which natural orbital changes (Milankovitch cycles) started a long slow cooling trend. That natural cooling trend ended over a century ago when the un-natural effect of mankind's carbon emissions started to overpower the natural cooling factors, and this fast CO2 buildup un-naturally warmed the Earth more in a century than it had naturally cooled in the previous five thousand years.

So, it hasn't "been warming for the past 20 thousand years".....the Earth had been cooling for at least the last five thousand years until human activity started this abrupt and very rapid warming trend.


Figure 4 - Global temperature variation since the last ice age 20,000 years ago, extended until 2100 for a medium emissions scenario with about 3 degrees of global warming. Graph: Jos Hagelaars.
(source: Paleoclimate: The End of the Holocene by Dr. Stefan Rahmstorf)








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.....what I said was fact and you called my factual statement "total bullshit". When in fact it was correct.

Maybe you could discuss less childishly.
Nope! What you said was the usual ignorant denier cult bullshit. You were incorrect. Either lying or just stupidly wrong.

Maybe you could discuss climate issues less ignorantly and less trollishly.

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That is not a chart showing the temperature. Its more deception from the left.

And ending in the year 2100. Ridiculous.
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I believe that he was appointed because of his perceived bias.
And, most importantly, because he is a totally bought-and-paid-for stooge of the Koch brothers.
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Old February 9th, 2018, 11:44 AM   #28
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That is not a chart showing the temperature. Its more deception from the left.

And ending in the year 2100. Ridiculous.
Nope! That is just more sound science that you are too stupid to understand....and too brainwashed and bamboozled to accept.

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Nope! That is just more sound science that you are too fucking stupid to understand....and too brainwashed and bamboozled to accept.
Like I said, its been warming up for thousands of years.
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Old February 9th, 2018, 02:15 PM   #30
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Like I said, its been warming up for thousands of years.
Like you lied, you mean.

The Earth was actually slowly cooling for the last five thousand years until CO2 levels started climbing as a result of mankind's activities.

Your fraudulent denier cult myths always get debunked by the scientific facts.
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