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Old March 8th, 2018, 02:27 PM   #51
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sheer entertainment for the glitz and glamour and a peek at all the pretty rich people

like a GOP campaign fund raiser for the right wingers
Granted. But what the oscars have become now is exactly the same for democrat party with all these beautiful, rich and highly influential people espousing the ideals of the democrat party to a mass audience.

If the GOP did the same thing it would rightfully be called propaganda. But in this case of Hollywood hypocrisy, we excuse it as culture.

That being said, the oscars never had an appeal to me, even prior to the penetration of politics.
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This was the first year since they went to ten nominees for best pictures that we saw them all. The only performance we missed was Denzel Washington's - because I can't stand watching autistic impersonations. Drives me crazy. LOL

I actually liked "Dunkirk" quite a lot. I didn't expect to - I don't really care for war movies in general and I knew this was mostly all about sea battles. But it got such rave reviews we took a chance. I was surprised how thoroughly riveted I was by a film which had no traditional "plot" and no characters to really care about. I thought it was very well crafted.

On the other hand, I found "Darkest Hour" to be tremendous bore. And, other than Gary Oldman's FANTASTIC performance, was almost reduced to dozing. If it weren't for Oldman pulling every acting trick up his sleeve out, I think this would have been a b-grade movie.

My pick for Best Picture would have been "Three Billboards" - loved every single moment in it. It kept swerving in unexpected ways. The characters kept evolving and my allegiances changed as the film progressed. Francis McDormand and Sam Rockwell totally deserved their awards - and there should be another award that Woody Harrelson could win LOL. They all stole - and then broke - my heart.

I adored "Phantom Thread" - but I can see why some people didn't care for it. It was definitely a strange story and told in a strangely modulated way. I enjoyed it - and even if I didn't care for the story, LOL, you're right - the production is exquisite and a true joy to experience! You could almost feel the textures!

"Call Me By Your Name" and "Lady Bird" - though very different genres (one a romance, the other a coming of age tale) - were both extremely well done examples of their individual genre films. "Call Me By Your Name" was populated with pretty people doing pretty things in pretty places with plenty of room for tears of happiness and sorrow. "Lady Bird" was filmed in a more realistic gritty style and was grimly funny in its story of quirky young lady who comes to value her family and their values. Nothing earth shattering in information - but quite enjoyable with terrific performances all around.

"The Shape of Water" deserves its Best Picture win, if "Three Billboards" wasn't going to win. It's a beautiful film - loving photographed and quite enchanting to see which is surprising since it's a very mundane background. Though complete fantasy and faery tale, it is completely believable and touching and beautiful. It's SO worth seeing more than once.

"The Post" was just a bit too much of "All the President's Men" for me to make a really sharp shooting 'new' movie. But, it was excellent - and the cast was excellent - even Tom Hanks, of whom I'm not a huge fan. Meryl is her usual absolute genius self. I didn't know the entire story behind the publishing of The Pentagon Papers, so I was grateful for that piece of history without having to suffer through a no-doubt insufferable book to find out.

"Get Out" is simply one of the best - and wittiest - horror movies I've ever seen. It's rather difficult to tie up social issues with horror movies (it's certainly been tried but never really succeeded before), and this one ties it up in ribbons. Daniel Kaluuya is very very good - if Oldman hadn't won (and he should have won), Kaluuya should have been the very next top contender.

My capsule takes on the top nominees.

I didn't see "Wonder Woman" ... I only went to see "Black Panther" because of the photos of the costumes I've seen. I HATE superhero movies. I didn't care for "Black Panther" because - well - it's just another stupid superhero movie - BUT the art direction is superb and the costumes, settings, photography is spectacular. I just wish they were telling a 'real' story LOL.
Our political differences aside, i'm glad you could enjoy yourself and the movies you saw with a minimum of politics intruding your thoughts. Thanks for the honest open mindedness.
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I set all politics aside when watching a film - at least I try to. I think that it's harder to overlook the politics in some of the classic films than in contemporary ones. Even when taking a definite side and point of view, most contemporary films show - or attempt to show - both sides of the issue.
Classic films, such as Citizen Kane, Casablanca, All the King's Men, Advise and Consent, Born Yesterday, etc. have a very strong political tone and bias (which is anti-conservative government) and yet nobody complains about them!
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Careful, Caca. You and your friends are eventually going to run out of people to hate. Let's see what we've got so far:
Democrats/Liberal Loons
Academia
Media of all sorts (except RW)
Government agencies
Unions
Entertainment industry
Americans on public assistance
Immigrants
Muslims
Environmentalists
Social workers
Public school educators
Industry regulators
Atheists
FBI agents
Europeans
Canadians
Medicaid recipients
Healthcare Industry
Poor people
Gays
Blacks

Whew!! AND I probably forgot some.
What's left? Oh yeah...how could I forget? DONALD J (for Genius) Trump.
There's not much conservative hate, other than Liberal stupidity. Of which, you just clearly demonstrated. I would have suggested ignorance but, clearly you know better, or should. If you really wanted a dialectic argument, you would have raised one or two issues to discuss. Instead you ramble out a long list of issues no one is going to take the time to discuss in an effort to shut down the argument. It's a tired and boring Leftist tactic that is so transparent that it really deserves to be called stupid. Face it, you have lost the argument.
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Okay. That's just sickening. AND 20 years ago.....let me repeat that....AND 20 years ago Jimmy Kimmel acted like a leachy jackass.

AND now, 20 years later you want to point out that a comedian (who MIGHT be a Democrat and who is NOT President of the United States) acted like a 15-year-old jerk, in a comedy routine---20 years ago--ergo.....he's a hypocrite who is NOT the President of the United States, but a comedian who hosted an awards ceremony?? BUT never mind a sitting president who is now and always has been a possible rapist, positively an adulterer and a liar to boot.

Beautiful. Well done.
So, we can deduce from his gutter, leachy jackass comedy of 20-years ago that not much has changed. Other than a larger stage. And using Trump as a distraction from the Hollywood-hypocrisy tells us you don't have a viable argument to be made. Beautiful. Well done......NOT!
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Trump as a distraction?

Trump's name wasn't mentioned at the Academy Awards ceremony this year.

Pence's name was used once in a (not-very-funny) joke.

Please. If you're going to critique something, at least have the smallest amount of credence to watch it.
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So, we can deduce from his gutter, leachy jackass comedy of 20-years ago that not much has changed. Other than a larger stage. And using Trump as a distraction from the Hollywood-hypocrisy tells us you don't have a viable argument to be made. Beautiful. Well done......NOT!

So let me see. You and millions like you voted to put a man with morals less than those of an ally cat in the highest office in the land, and you want to accuse Kimmel and the left of hypocrisy ??


HOWLING HYSTERICALLY !!!!
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So let me see. You and millions like you voted to put a man with morals less than those of an ally cat in the highest office in the land, and you want to accuse Kimmel and the left of hypocrisy ??
@Bubba

Did you watch the video?
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So let me see. You and millions like you voted to put a man with morals less than those of an ally cat in the highest office in the land, and you want to accuse Kimmel and the left of hypocrisy ??


HOWLING HYSTERICALLY !!!!
And I did not even know that Kimmel was running for a national elected office!!!
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Great video pointing out hollywood and its never-ending streams of hypocrisy.

https://youtu.be/ZGgOuC3eJ7k
So, what is this guy bitching about anyway? That Jimmy Kimmel got famous and hosted the Oscars instead of Adam Carolla?
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