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Old April 3rd, 2018, 02:51 PM   #41
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See: Annual ‘Caravan’ of Central-American Asylum Seekers – Heading to U.S.-Mexico Border – Sparks Trump’s Concern


April 2nd, 2018


”Alex Mensing, one of the US collaborators who works for Pueblo Sin Fronteras, started in the city of Tapachula, which is located in the state of Chiapas, Mexico, and borders Guatemala. The caravan of about 1,100 people is currently in Oaxaca, Mexico, about 420 miles from their starting point. Mensing said the migrants would turn themselves in and request asylum.


Pueblo Sin Fronteras said they would not respond to Trump's tweet, but stated that the refugee caravan "is a movement made of people who were forced to flee their countries of origin due to persecution and violence."



Note: that Pueblo Sin Fronteras means people without borders.


Keep in mind our Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. The fact is, our federal government is specifically charged with power:


”To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions” See Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15



As President, and in compliance with our federal government’s duty to protect the United States against invasions, Trump should immediately call out the National Guard, place them on the border, block these invaders, and protect the United States against this pending invasion. To not block these invaders at our border and allow them entry into the United States will, by default, entitle them to stay while a long legal process takes place which essentially allows them to stay and burden American Citizens with the costs of their economic needs: food, shelter, clothing, public schooling, medical attention, including the costs of females giving birth.


It’s time for President Trump to nip this madness in the bud, and do what is right for America’s citizens.



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American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America borders.

So when does he plan on protecting us against Russian invasions?

For that matter, when does he plan on faithfully executing the law he is sworn to uphold?

How about actually obeying the law he is sworn to uphold?

Americans are sick and tired of Trump, and his billionaire ilk being given tax cuts at their expense.

And you actually expect to be taken serious with this post?

Is there something wrong with you?
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Old April 3rd, 2018, 04:20 PM   #44
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Is english not your first language?
Do you know the difference between refugees applying for asylum and an invasion?
obviously, and pathetically, not

and I'm sick of these asshats saying what "American taxpayers" are sick of ... I'm an American taxpayer - I would much rather help people with my tax dollars who are escaping an evil regime than pay for Dear Leader's fucking parade .... and I know a helluva lot of other "American taxpayers" who feel the same way
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22 million invaders may not be "the apocalypse" [your nonsensical exaggeration], but the invasion has caused American citizens social and financial misery for many, many years.


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I don't know where you get the 22M figure but never mind.

These millions of illegals have provided cheaper goods and services. Many have paid SS and payroll taxes they'll never recover. They buy products, pay sales tax. They increase demand for products.

And they aren't necessarily welfare hogs.

CIS Exaggerates the Cost of Immigrant Welfare Use
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I don't know where you get the 22M figure but never mind.

These millions of illegals have provided cheaper goods and services. Many have paid SS and payroll taxes they'll never recover. They buy products, pay sales tax. They increase demand for products.

And they aren't necessarily welfare hogs.

CIS Exaggerates the Cost of Immigrant Welfare Use
I love the cheaper argument. I really do. That and "they will do the work Americans will not do". I just really do love that argument. It is so reminiscent of the good ole days. Those darkies have the temperament of the cotton fields. I dont have to insure them. I dont have to pay payroll tax for them. They can get a fake SS number and pay taxes, since the IRS is the biggest threat to actually do something. Never mind that would be called identity theft in any other situation. I could just really make a page out of how wrong your argument is. But, you are right. They do pay sales tax when they buy something and they often use a fake ss number to pay taxes.
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I love the cheaper argument. I really do. That and "they will do the work Americans will not do". I just really do love that argument. It is so reminiscent of the good ole days. Those darkies have the temperament of the cotton fields. I dont have to insure them. I dont have to pay payroll tax for them. They can get a fake SS number and pay taxes, since the IRS is the biggest threat to actually do something. Never mind that would be called identity theft in any other situation. I could just really make a page out of how wrong your argument is. But, you are right. They do pay sales tax when they buy something and they often use a fake ss number to pay taxes.
You don't have to lecture me on illegal immigration. I watched it decimate the building trades - my profession at the time - during GW's "good economy." Back in those days, people bragged on getting the home re-roofed for really cheap, wink, wink.

Your chip-on-your-shoulder comparison of actual slaves to illegals fails completely, though you've been having a lot of fun making the comparison recently.

I presented the other side of the II equation. Illegal immigration isn't all bad, but as you point out, the worst of it falls on the nameless, right-less illegals.

All this soldiers to the border is just more reality TV for Trump's dumbed down masses. If he wants to end illegal immigration, all he needs to do is tweet an announcement that mandatory 20-year sentences will be imposed on employers who hire illegals, including his rich-fuck oligarch buddies.

But we both know, he doesn't want to solve the problem. It gets way too much political mileage to end it.
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You don't have to lecture me on illegal immigration. I watched it decimate the building trades - my profession at the time - during GW's "good economy." Back in those days, people bragged on getting the home re-roofed for really cheap, wink, wink.

Your chip-on-your-shoulder comparison of actual slaves to illegals fails completely, though you've been having a lot of fun making the comparison recently.

I presented the other side of the II equation. Illegal immigration isn't all bad, but as you point out, the worst of it falls on the nameless, right-less illegals.

All this soldiers to the border is just more reality TV for Trump's dumbed down masses. If he wants to end illegal immigration, all he needs to do is tweet an announcement that mandatory 20-year sentences will be imposed on employers who hire illegals, including his rich-fuck oligarch buddies.

But we both know, he doesn't want to solve the problem. It gets way too much political mileage to end it.
Oh I agree the problem could be addressed on the private and government level. No more allowing fake ss number to pay taxes. Jail time for businesses who hire illegal aliens. Any state that provides any welfare to illegal immigrants and their families has all federal funding cut off. This would work much better than any wall or soldiers on the field. The problem is, that you and I both know, we have to deal in reality
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Oh I agree the problem could be addressed on the private and government level. No more allowing fake ss number to pay taxes. Jail time for businesses who hire illegal aliens. Any state that provides any welfare to illegal immigrants and their families has all federal funding cut off. This would work much better than any wall or soldiers on the field. The problem is, that you and I both know, we have to deal in reality
Oh, I see.

Putting employers in jail for breaking the law isn't part of DJT's making American great again.

Yes, I see.
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Oh, I see.

Putting employers in jail for breaking the law isn't part of DJT's making American great again.

Yes, I see.
Nor has it been any other President before him or more importantly Congress. Now stop being a belligerent ass when ever I am attempting common dialogue and ground please. Thank you
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