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Old April 3rd, 2018, 06:09 PM   #1
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Why an assault weapons ban canít address Americaís gun problem

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The assault weapons ban is one of the top policy proposals from March for Our Lives and other gun control advocates. But itís also one of the gun control measures with the least supportive evidence behind it.
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For that, the best review of the evidence is an extensive report by the RAND Corporation released in March, which looked at US studies on gun control, including assault weapons bans at the state level.

Here, too, the news is not good for an assault weapons ban. RAND found that the available studies were often contradictory. Focusing specifically on the most rigorous studies, RAND found the evidence for bansí effects on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines on mass shootings and violent crime in general to be ďinconclusive.Ē
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Thatís because only a small percentage of overall gun violence involves assault weapons, with the great majority of firearm homicides involving more conventional handguns. And Morral said thereís no reason to believe an assault weapons ban would have any effect on suicides, which have in recent years made up around 60 percent of all gun deaths.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...research-study
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To be effective,you need a ban on civilian ownership of semi automatic weapons.

That works. For those who support evidence based solutions.
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Old April 3rd, 2018, 06:44 PM   #3
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To be effective,you need a ban on civilian ownership of semi automatic weapons.

That works. For those who support evidence based solutions.
A total gun ban would be even more effective. If you can get past the Constitution and a civil war part. This is not Australia mate
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A total gun ban would be even more effective. If you can get past the Constitution and a civil war part. This is not Australia mate
It's the second amendment, and until a few years ago, it didn't mean what it does now.

Big clue "Amendment" it can be removed.
Bigger clue, the supreme court can say it means what people thought it meant for the first couple of hundred years of it's existence.

It's not that hard.
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It's the second amendment, and until a few years ago, it didn't mean what it does now.

Big clue "Amendment" it can be removed.
Bigger clue, the supreme court can say it means what people thought it meant for the first couple of hundred years of it's existence.

It's not that hard.
Yes, you are correct on all those points. You and I will not be alive to see that happen. Contrary to hoggie boy dreams, the millennial's really are not all on board with that either.

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Millennials Are No More Liberal On Gun Control Than Elders, Polls Show
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How a post-Columbine generation views gun control
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News Outlets Ignore Millennials' Skepticism of Gun Control
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To be effective,you need a ban on civilian ownership of semi automatic weapons.

That works. For those who support evidence based solutions.
Britain has strict gun laws, yet the murder rate per capita in London have surpassed New York City.

People will kill. At one time or another, there surely must have been some idiots in neolithic and ancient times that were accusing a rock or a stick of being an "assuault weapon". Whether he was conservative or liberal probably didn't matter, but most thinking people in that community would have thought he was the village idiot simply because a weapon by definition must have an offensive capability. Without an offensive capability, it is by definition not a weapon but nothing more than a shield.
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Assault weapon? What is not one that is used by a person intent on hurting or killing people? Assualt is the used to describe what a person does to others.
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Assault weapon? What is not one that is used by a person intent on hurting or killing people? Assualt is the used to describe what a person does to others.
ALL weapons are intent on hurting or killing people. If it don't hurt, it IS NOT A FREAKING WEAPON. It is about as stupid as classifying a plane that can actually fly as a "flying plane". Assault weapon definitions as used by anti-gun proponents is at best libtardation in perhaps it's purest form.

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Britain has strict gun laws, yet the murder rate per capita in London have surpassed New York City.

People will kill. At one time or another, there surely must have been some idiots in neolithic and ancient times that were accusing a rock or a stick of being an "assuault weapon". Whether he was conservative or liberal probably didn't matter, but most thinking people in that community would have thought he was the village idiot simply because a weapon by definition must have an offensive capability. Without an offensive capability, it is by definition not a weapon but nothing more than a shield.
There's an entire thread on that. If you actually read the article it clearly statse that in official murder rate was exceeded by ONE person in ONE month, ONE time, and that actually London is about twice as safe as NYC.
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It's the second amendment, and until a few years ago, it didn't mean what it does now.
In what way??

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Big clue "Amendment" it can be removed.
No....It can only be changed or repealed by another amendment

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Bigger clue, the supreme court can say it means what people thought it meant for the first couple of hundred years of it's existence.
The Supreme Court can be challenged, and in this case reading something into the 2nd amendment would definatly bring a challenge...
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