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Old April 5th, 2018, 03:26 AM   #51
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why are you trying to derail a thread?
Why did Wolfe bring Trump into it were you as hard on him?
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Old April 5th, 2018, 04:16 AM   #52
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Wait, so I am privileged because I identify with what I was born as? How about everyone is cisgender, how they develop has nothing to do with what some call hard wiring. I covered that, just because you have some feminine traits does not mean you were misaligned at birth,
There is a very big difference between "having some feminine traits" and being transgender. If I remember correctly, the internal sense of maleness or femaleness is encoded in the brain at the same time as the body begins to differentiate into male or female.

If the brain encodes the opposite gender from what the body is developing the person is born transgender. To assume that everyone is born cisgender does not jive with more recent scientific studies.

Much of how we develop as humans is based on our internal hard wiring. Introversion/extroversion, musical talent etc. How we develop is heavily affected by what is already coded in when we are born. This is also, of course, true of transgendered people as well.
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You fully do not understand the bureaucracy we live in, doesn't need to take one second of anyone's time, and is a lie anyway.
I do understand, that’s why the BCs should be changed.
If the BC does not match the obvious gender of the person using the BC for ID the the bureaucracy is going to create problems.

As far as it “being a lie” that is an opinion based on your VERY limited understanding of the subject
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Chromosomes and genitalia prove what sex someone is. Let's say you pick up a cute puppy or kitten and want to see the sex of the animal, how do you do this? You see what genitalia it has. Simple. Humans no different.
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Unless you are Dr. Doolittle, there is no way to know if gender dysphoria exists in other species.
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You are wrong. His opinion is informed. DNA is an absolute indicator of gender, not clothing or surgery.
I posted an article on "DNA sexuality" earlier in this thread. You're wrong. More than the "XX" and "XY" chromosomes occur, and when they do ambiguous sexuality can result.
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Old April 5th, 2018, 11:21 AM   #57
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Wait, so I am privileged because I identify with what I was born as? How about everyone is cisgender, how they develop has nothing to do with what some call hard wiring. I covered that, just because you have some feminine traits does not mean you were misaligned at birth,
whatever, these are only your opinions. every medical and mental health association that has done serious study and peer reviewed studies on transgender issues is in strong disagreement with your OPINION. get educated and get a grip.
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whatever, these are only your opinions. every medical and mental health association that has done serious study and peer reviewed studies on transgender issues is in strong disagreement with your OPINION. get educated and get a grip.
Who cares about the opinion of some bought-and-sold Jewish tricksters? There is only the Law of Nature and the nature of human is to have man and woman, not some mutant abomination.
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I suppose this will get me in deep with many, but I also suppose as soon as they can prove that they are DNA changed they can change their Birth certificate. Seriously they were born what they were born.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.fa164f1ff48f
I want to be kind and reasonable. I want people to be free to be the person they want to be. But while I think that after "the surgery" a person should be able to identify themselves accordingly, I also think about the unsuspecting heterosexual person who gets romantically involved only to learn the truth after they're in over their head. Is any cultural transgender norm developing that says a transgender will reveal the transgender truth from the beginning? Or how is this issue handled? I have seen some beautiful and completely convincing "women" who were transgender.
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I want to be kind and reasonable. I want people to be free to be the person they want to be. But while I think that after "the surgery" a person should be able to identify themselves accordingly, I also think about the unsuspecting heterosexual person who gets romantically involved only to learn the truth after they're in over their head. Is any cultural transgender norm developing that says a transgender will reveal the transgender truth from the beginning? Or how is this issue handled? I have seen some beautiful and completely convincing "women" who were transgender.
why does it matter if they are trans or not? if you were attracted to them, would you care?
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