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Old April 7th, 2018, 06:48 PM   #31
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It got changed because it was politically advantageous since the predictions of warming and seas rising and all that, have turned out to be bull shit.
Absolute bullshit. It is ideologically convenient to the rip-off artist corporatocracy and the politicians they buy in bulk to convince dummies like you that it is some kind of scam.

You are the one being scammed.
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Old April 7th, 2018, 06:55 PM   #32
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Absolute bullshit. It is ideologically convenient to the rip-off artist corporatocracy and the politicians they buy in bulk to convince dummies like you that it is some kind of scam.

You are the one being scammed.
You guys are eating up the bull shit with a spoon. How you swallow that crap is beyond me. You guys are sheep. Al Gore is living in a giant mansion flying around in private jets, telling you to cut back on your C02 emissions as if C02 was a pollutant. Wake up.
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Old April 7th, 2018, 07:04 PM   #33
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You guys are eating up the bull shit with a spoon. How you swallow that crap is beyond me. You guys are sheep. Al Gore is living in a giant mansion flying around in private jets, telling you to cut back on your C02 emissions as if C02 was a pollutant. Wake up.
Robert Redford flies around in his private Lear Jet. Last I heard, Al Gore's electric bill is 30k a month. Limousine Liberals, give me a break!
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Old April 7th, 2018, 07:41 PM   #34
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You guys are eating up the bull shit with a spoon. How you swallow that crap is beyond me. You guys are sheep. Al Gore is living in a giant mansion flying around in private jets, telling you to cut back on your C02 emissions as if C02 was a pollutant. Wake up.
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Is a mini ICE AGE on the way? Scientists warn the sun will 'go to sleep' in 2030 and could cause temperatures to plummet
New study claims to have cracked predicting solar cycles
Says that between 2030 and 2040 solar cycles will cancel each other out
Could lead to 'Maunder minimum' effect that saw River Thames freeze over


Read more: Is a mini ICE AGE on the way? Scientists warn the sun will 'go to sleep' in 2020 | Daily Mail Online
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The Earth could be headed for a 'mini ice age' researchers have warned.

A new study claims to have cracked predicting solar cycles - and says that between 2020 and 2030 solar cycles will cancel each other out.

This, they say, will lead to a phenomenon known as the 'Maunder minimum' - which has previously been known as a mini ice age when it hit between 1646 and 1715, even causing London's River Thames to freeze over.


The new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat.

It draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone.

Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645, according to the results presented by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.

The model predicts that the pair of waves become increasingly offset during Cycle 25, which peaks in 2022.

During Cycle 26, which covers the
decade from 2030-2040, the two waves will become exactly out of synch and this will cause a significant reduction in solar activity.

'In cycle 26, the two waves exactly mirror each other – peaking at the same time but in opposite hemispheres of the Sun,' said Zharkova.

'Their interaction will be disruptive, or they will nearly cancel each other.

'We predict that this will lead to the properties of a 'Maunder minimum''

Is a mini ICE AGE on the way? Scientists warn the sun will 'go to sleep' in 2020 | Daily Mail Online
Your point is a lie, a three-year old lie. End of on-topic discussion.
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Robert Redford flies around in his private Lear Jet. Last I heard, Al Gore's electric bill is 30k a month. Limousine Liberals, give me a break!
Yah. Don't know about Redford. For Gore: See - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/al-gores-energy-use/

Fact Check Business
"Al Gore's Home Energy Use
"Does Al Gore's home consume twenty times as much energy as the average American house?

"CLAIM
"Al Gore's residence uses considerably more energy than the average American home.

"RATING
Mixture

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"In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

...

"The specific numbers involved were disputable (the TCPR claimed Gore’s home used electricity at a rate more than “20 times the national average,” while the Associated Press reported that their own review of bills indicated that the Gores’ Nashville household used more than 12 times the average for a typical household in that area), but the basic gist of the claim — that the Gores’ Nashville residence consumed a larger proportion of energy than the average American home — was true.

"Some important points not covered in the report, however, included whether equating the Gores’ home to the average American home was really a relevant comparison. A spokesperson for the Gore family responded by noting some mitigating factors, such as the fact that the Gores’ Nashville residence isn’t an “average” house: it’s about four times larger than the average new American home built in 2006, and it essentially functions as both a residence and a business office since both Al and Tipper work out of their home. The Tennessean also noted that the Gores had been paying a $432 per month premium on their monthly electricity bills in order to obtain some of their electricity from “green” sources (i.e., solar or other renewable energy sources). Other factors (such as the climate in the area where the home is located and its size) made the Gore home’s energy usage comparable to that of other homes in the same area.

"The former vice-president maintained that comparing raw energy-usage figures was misleading and that he leads what he advocates, a “carbon-neutral lifestyle,” by purchasing energy from renewable energy sources such as solar, wind and methane gas to balance out the carbon emissions produced in generating the electricity his home used:

...

"Also, by the end of 2007 the Gores had completed renovations that made their home much more energy-efficient:

"Al Gore, who was criticized for high electric bills at his Tennessee mansion, has completed a host of improvements to make the home more energy efficient, and a building-industry group has praised the house as one of the nation’s most environmentally friendly.

"The former vice president has installed solar panels, a rainwater-collection system and geothermal heating. He also replaced all incandescent lights with compact fluorescent or light-emitting diode bulbs."

(My emphasis - more @ the URL)

The energy accusations sound like sour grapes to me. But then Gore actually went feet dry in VN, even though it was as a military journalist. But maybe Homer nodded, eh?
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Old April 7th, 2018, 08:34 PM   #36
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Yah. Don't know about Redford. For Gore: See - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/al-gores-energy-use/

Fact Check Business
"Al Gore's Home Energy Use
"Does Al Gore's home consume twenty times as much energy as the average American house?

"CLAIM
"Al Gore's residence uses considerably more energy than the average American home.

"RATING
Mixture

...
"In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

...

"The specific numbers involved were disputable (the TCPR claimed Gore’s home used electricity at a rate more than “20 times the national average,” while the Associated Press reported that their own review of bills indicated that the Gores’ Nashville household used more than 12 times the average for a typical household in that area), but the basic gist of the claim — that the Gores’ Nashville residence consumed a larger proportion of energy than the average American home — was true.

"Some important points not covered in the report, however, included whether equating the Gores’ home to the average American home was really a relevant comparison. A spokesperson for the Gore family responded by noting some mitigating factors, such as the fact that the Gores’ Nashville residence isn’t an “average” house: it’s about four times larger than the average new American home built in 2006, and it essentially functions as both a residence and a business office since both Al and Tipper work out of their home. The Tennessean also noted that the Gores had been paying a $432 per month premium on their monthly electricity bills in order to obtain some of their electricity from “green” sources (i.e., solar or other renewable energy sources). Other factors (such as the climate in the area where the home is located and its size) made the Gore home’s energy usage comparable to that of other homes in the same area.

"The former vice-president maintained that comparing raw energy-usage figures was misleading and that he leads what he advocates, a “carbon-neutral lifestyle,” by purchasing energy from renewable energy sources such as solar, wind and methane gas to balance out the carbon emissions produced in generating the electricity his home used:

...

"Also, by the end of 2007 the Gores had completed renovations that made their home much more energy-efficient:

"Al Gore, who was criticized for high electric bills at his Tennessee mansion, has completed a host of improvements to make the home more energy efficient, and a building-industry group has praised the house as one of the nation’s most environmentally friendly.

"The former vice president has installed solar panels, a rainwater-collection system and geothermal heating. He also replaced all incandescent lights with compact fluorescent or light-emitting diode bulbs."

(My emphasis - more @ the URL)

The energy accusations sound like sour grapes to me. But then Gore actually went feet dry in VN, even though it was as a military journalist. But maybe Homer nodded, eh?
Solar Scientists have no idea what causes the Maunder Minimum but is real and Valley Forge is documented evidence.
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Solar Scientists have no idea what causes the Maunder Minimum but is real and Valley Forge is documented evidence.
Agreed.
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Old April 8th, 2018, 07:27 AM   #39
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The above response from this justoneman character tells us all we need to know about his fitness to discuss and be taken seriously regarding this issue. He testifies against himself with a bouquet of deflection and childishness. DISMISSED !!!!
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Old April 8th, 2018, 07:32 AM   #40
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You guys are eating up the bull shit with a spoon. How you swallow that crap is beyond me. You guys are sheep. Al Gore is living in a giant mansion flying around in private jets, telling you to cut back on your C02 emissions as if C02 was a pollutant. Wake up.
CO2 is a natural part of our atmosphere. But how much CO2 in our atmosphere is what we need to be concerned about. CO2 is a “greenhouse” gas. Too much CO2 in our atmosphere will cause global temperatures to rise. Temperature is just a way of measuring how much energy is in a system. Higher temperatures means more energy. More energy in our atmosphere means larger and more destructive storms.

CO2 levels are currently higher then at any other point in history. (Over 400 parts per million).
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