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Old April 14th, 2018, 05:07 PM   #1
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Syrian chemical attack survivor to Trump: I want to 'buy you a beer'

Well, here's a scripted play if I ever saw one.....

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Syrian chemical attack survivor to Trump: I want to 'buy you a beer'

A survivor of a Syrian chemical attack in 2013 wants to buy President Donald Trump a beer to share his experience on the conditions in the country.

Kassem Eid, who told CNN's Ana Cabrera he lived under two years of siege and bombardment by the Syrian government, said he was glad the President has attempted to do something for the Syrian people.

"I just want to tell Mr. Trump directly: I'm a Syrian refugee who survived chemical weapons attacks, who lived under two years of siege and bombardment by the government," Eid said. "I would love to, like, buy you a beer, and just sit in front of you and tell you how bad it is in Syria."

Eid also said he would tell Trump, that he "proved once again, yesterday, that you have a big heart. At least a lot more bigger than Obama because you actually tried to do something. We need real, long-term commitment to bring peace to Syria."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/polit...vor/index.html
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Old April 14th, 2018, 05:10 PM   #2
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Still haven't seen any evidence that Assad used chemical weapons in 2018
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Old April 14th, 2018, 06:06 PM   #3
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You keep repeating this, so..what kind of evidence do "you" need to see? Are you in Syria? Do you have more information than all the nations who think they did? Just making a statement like that doesn't mean anything...if you can't back it up with concrete facts.
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Still haven't seen any evidence that Assad used chemical weapons in 2018
Sounds like you're not buying anyone any beer.....
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You keep repeating this, so..what kind of evidence do "you" need to see? Are you in Syria? Do you have more information than all the nations who think they did? Just making a statement like that doesn't mean anything...if you can't back it up with concrete facts.
Now where was this logic when our whole intelligence apparatus announced that they had incontrovertible evidence that the Russians hacked our electoral process ? In that case, Spanky and his minions refused to accept that intelligence.
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You do like to change the subject..and I did not ask you those questions.
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Well, here's a scripted play if I ever saw one.....



https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/polit...vor/index.html
sorry Mr Eid, but Trump and his moron followers dont want you to come to this country period. whether you are picking up the bar tab or not............

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You keep repeating this, so..what kind of evidence do "you" need to see? Are you in Syria? Do you have more information than all the nations who think they did? Just making a statement like that doesn't mean anything...if you can't back it up with concrete facts.
Where are the concrete facts that Assad is behind this? Do you have any clue to how many factions of anti-government and pro-government groups (supported and supplied by all sorts of different governments or NGO groups) there are in Syria? Are you unaware that large caches of arms and munitions were captured by ISIS, AQ, and the countless separatist groups when much of Syria was overrun by them early in the war? Who even knows how much of what was taken by whom? There were actually even tank battles and the anti-government groups have been able to shoot down helicopters and planes. It is not even college level chemistry to manufacture chlorine based chemical weapons which this one is thought to be. Chemical based weapons were banned by the Powers in charge simply because they realized that any shithole area with access to concentrated cleaning products, pesticides, herbicides, and even preservatives and spices can produce them to level the playing field. With a cellphone and credit card you can order a drone on line to deliver chemicals if you are too stupid or do not have the access to build one. The only tricky part is to mathematically figure out the detonation of the weapon to maximize the atomizing of the chemical for superior dispersion without overheating it or wasting it as an accelerant. But these weapons are crude, you can toss out a 55 gallon drum of say concentrated bleach, formaldehyde, or even pepper or mustard extract and still kill or injured a lot of people.

The United States is the most powerful nation on Earth. With that power comes responsibility. When we under Bush 43 invaded Iraq in 2003, it was because supposedly every intelligence agency in the world believed that Saddam had WMD. We didn't find squat other than some old yellow cake and some expired chemicals that dated back to before Bush 41's Desert Storm of 1991. Then the cry became "Bush lied and people died". Now the claim is that these are the very same chemicals that Saddam had trucked into and buried in Syrian desert. People need to make up their mind instead of just following partisan political trend.

These guys managed to defeat an American trained and equipped Iraqi Army, sent the Russian trained and equipped Syrian Army rocking on it's heels until Putin showed up, administered and governed huge territories, maintained and kept the oil and gas field in operation, sold oil and gas to other countries, provoked the two largest militaries in the region to throw down and intervene, and invoked both Sunni and Shia nations and populations to somehow get involved in their civil war. But now all of a sudden people seem to think they are incapable of doing such a simple task of suddenly discovering some buried barrels of Iraqi chemicals and being able to utilize it for whatever purpose they have for their own agenda.

You have to think about what each player's endgame is all about. It just makes no sense for Assad to gas his own people and stir up international outrage at a time that his own endgame, remaining in power was within his grasp.
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Old April 14th, 2018, 08:10 PM   #9
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You keep repeating this, so..what kind of evidence do "you" need to see? Are you in Syria? Do you have more information than all the nations who think they did? Just making a statement like that doesn't mean anything...if you can't back it up with concrete facts.
I don't believe any of this happened, but even if it did, why should I fucking care?
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Still haven't seen any evidence that Assad used chemical weapons in 2018
I don't suppose you'd be persuaded by videos of helicopters dropping barrel bombs-
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-first-hand accounts of military helicopters releasing barrel bombs, evidence of features and markings of the bombs consistent with those Syrian forces used in previous attacks, and photos and videos of victims exhibiting the effects of chemical exposure such as foaming at the mouth
==these helicopters which ARE NOT UK, France or U.S. helicopters? or barrel bombs?

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