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Old April 16th, 2018, 12:14 AM   #1
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Why Russia did not respond to the US strikes on Syria

Truly, the "retaliation" for Assad's use of chemical weapons has all been an act starring Assad and Putin.

Gas a few people, Sunnis not Assad's kind of Muslim, the US freaks out, launches a buttload of missiles that really don't do sh*t, it's clear that Assad will stay in power, in the US attention is drawn off the "Stormy Daniels and the Love Child" show, all in all a great plan, a Putin move. Too bad Trump doesn't do vodka. They break out the really good stuff for good plans gone well.

Remember when the rightists were lauding Putin's chess playing skills?

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After a week of rhetorical escalation between the US and Russia - much of it conducted on Twitter - missile strikes on Syria were finally carried out on Saturday. US, UK and French forces launched attacks on three sites allegedly linked to the production of chemical weapons near Damascus, as well as in the province of Homs.

Despite the pathos with which US President Donald Trump announced the military operation, its result turned out to be less than modest. Putting aside the contradictory reports on how many missiles struck their intended targets, they did not cause any military casualties and failed to inflict any serious damage on Syrian military infrastructure. Compared to the recent Israeli air raid on the T-4 base, the result of the April 14 strikes seems rather insignificant.

In this sense, the US, UK and French strikes were no different from the military action in April 2017....

The difference this year was that Washington blamed not only the Syrian regime for the chemical attack but also its patron, Moscow....

Direct confrontation was predictably avoided, and the whole operation seemed to be no more than a "performance".

Assad was content

The party that stood to benefit the most from this situation was the Syrian regime and its allies. There was no change in the balance of power on the ground as a result of the strikes and forces loyal to the Syrian regime suffered no losses.

A few hours after the strikes, Bashar al-Assad entered social media politics by posting a video of himself purportedly arriving triumphantly at his workplace in Damascus. Local and foreign media then showed scenes of Syrians celebrating in the streets.

Assad seemed to weather the media speculation storm quite well, too. ...This year, after the "perfectly executed" strikes - as Trump described them - it became clear that there is nothing much behind the White House rhetoric except populism.

Last year, the Russian leadership saw the attack on Shayrat airfield as the least damaging solution for the domestic troubles Trump was facing.

This year too, Moscow understood that the strikes on Syria are not really in retribution for the alleged use of chemical weapons in Douma and definitely not an attempt to influence the outcome of the Syrian conflict. It was simply a demonstration of force.

What's more, the fact that Washington was slow to undertake the strikes was perceived in Moscow as a manifestation of weakness and indecisiveness, which only gave confidence to the Russian leadership. As a result, Moscow afforded itself a certain degree of hostile rhetoric to accompany the coordination with Washington that ensured no damage was done to Russian assets on the ground.

Consultations between Russia and the United States appear to have taken place in the week prior to the US strikes. The fact that Moscow had confidence in this coordination was reflected in the presence of a delegation from the ruling United Russia Party headed by its secretary-general, Andrei Turchak, in Damascus, the day the strikes were conducted.

In the end, these "formal" strikes against Syria were the optimal solution for both countries to ease tension around the situation with chemical weapons in Douma. Moscow retained the status quo in Syria, and Washington formally fulfilled its promise and took a "principled" position.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...130802748.html
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Truly, the "retaliation" for Assad's use of chemical weapons has all been an act starring Assad and Putin.

Gas a few people, Sunnis not Assad's kind of Muslim, the US freaks out, launches a buttload of missiles that really don't do sh*t, it's clear that Assad will stay in power, in the US attention is drawn off the "Stormy Daniels and the Love Child" show, all in all a great plan, a Putin move. Too bad Trump doesn't do vodka. They break out the really good stuff for good plans gone well.

Remember when the rightists were lauding Putin's chess playing skills?



https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...130802748.html
I have no memory of rightists lauding Putin's chess playing skills. I wager that Putin opens with King's Gambit which is easily defeated by Queen's Gambit
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I have no memory of rightists lauding Putin's chess playing skills. I wager that Putin opens with King's Gambit which is easily defeated by Queen's Gambit
You never heard, "Putin plays chess while Obama plays checkers?"

Yes you have.
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Maybe this will shed some light on that question: US Navy fooled Russia and Syria with a warship ruse before the strike - Business Insider

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Truly, the "retaliation" for Assad's use of chemical weapons has all been an act starring Assad and Putin.

Gas a few people, Sunnis not Assad's kind of Muslim, the US freaks out, launches a buttload of missiles that really don't do sh*t, it's clear that Assad will stay in power, in the US attention is drawn off the "Stormy Daniels and the Love Child" show, all in all a great plan, a Putin move. Too bad Trump doesn't do vodka. They break out the really good stuff for good plans gone well.

Remember when the rightists were lauding Putin's chess playing skills?



https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...130802748.html
Aren't you forgetting the part Trump..and before him-Obama have played in this act? Russia has its own red lines...namely, any attacks that target Russian troops and bases in Syria will invite a Russian conventional attack to destroy the "Donald Cook"...the ship launching most of the missiles, and whichever is the presiding aircraft carrier off the coast of Lebanon.

Worth noting that if Iranian troops are directly attacked, they consider that a red line option also...especially now that it appears that the US is going to demolish that trade agreement signed with Obama. Iran may not have the same level of sophistication as Russian missiles and aircraft, but if they launch a barrage of missiles and let's not forget- small gunboats in the Persian Gulf, they can destroy US ships, the Green Zone in Iraq, and an even better target for Iran: the incompetent military forces of Saudi Arabia and their Gulf allies.

So, who's bluffing? Even if Trump is serious...by the standards of this morning's leaked rumor...that Trump wanted missile attacks on Russian and Iranian forces in Syria, the generals in Trump's cabinet take away his toys when he's misbehaving! What times we live in when a guy called "Mad dog" is the adult in the room in the White House!

*should also note that Al Jazeera is good on some subjects EXCEPT those that conflict with goals and policies of their host nation- Qatar. And since Qatar was heavily involved in the overthrow of Gadaffi in Libya, and even more so in the Syrian operation to depose Assad (competing directly with Saudi's for influence there among jihadist mercenaries), nothing Al Jazeera says about the Syrian Civil War can be taken as any more credible than the usual suspects financed by the Neocons and arms merchants.

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Aren't you forgetting the part Trump..and before him-Obama have played in this act? Russia has its own red lines...namely, any attacks that target Russian troops and bases in Syria will invite a Russian conventional attack to destroy the "Donald Cook"...the ship launching most of the missiles, and whichever is the presiding aircraft carrier off the coast of Lebanon.

Worth noting that if Iranian troops are directly attacked, they consider that a red line option also...especially now that it appears that the US is going to demolish that trade agreement signed with Obama. Iran may not have the same level of sophistication as Russian missiles and aircraft, but if they launch a barrage of missiles and let's not forget- small gunboats in the Persian Gulf, they can destroy US ships, the Green Zone in Iraq, and an even better target for Iran: the incompetent military forces of Saudi Arabia and their Gulf allies.

So, who's bluffing? Even if Trump is serious...by the standards of this morning's leaked rumor...that Trump wanted missile attacks on Russian and Iranian forces in Syria, the generals in Trump's cabinet take away his toys when he's misbehaving! What times we live in when a guy called "Mad dog" is the adult in the room in the White House!

*should also note that Al Jazeera is good on some subjects EXCEPT those that conflict with goals and policies of their host nation- Qatar. And since Qatar was heavily involved in the overthrow of Gadaffi in Libya, and even more so in the Syrian operation to depose Assad (competing directly with Saudi's for influence there among jihadist mercenaries), nothing Al Jazeera says about the Syrian Civil War can be taken as any more credible than the usual suspects financed by the Neocons and arms merchants.
I failed to convey my point.

I think Trump, France, and the UK just got snookered.

Why would Assad gas his own people? That question has been asked repeatedly as though it would be a dumb move on his part. Super dumb.

Not really. Look it up yourself. The alleged chemical attack killed Sunnis. Assad would have no problem dusting a few Sunnis. As a side note, Assad's forces have carried out 73 documented chemical attacks since their war began, so the question "Why would Assad attack his 'own' people" is moot indeed.

Putin wanted a big, ineffective, preemptive, invasive display of raw but ineffective US power, which he got and knew he'd get if Assad gassed a few dozen Sunnis. Clearly, Assad remaining in power is a done deal, as is the future of Russian bases in Syria.

Meanwhile, back in the U S of A, more fracturing, D against R, R against R, D against D. More division. More confusion.

Score one for Vlad.
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