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Old May 7th, 2018, 09:21 AM   #21
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Clara only one problem Manaforts crimes of which he is charged was when he worked for the DNC, Hillary NOT TRUMP. The Crimes were committed from 2006-2013 when he worked with the Podesta Firm, which worked with the DNC and Hillary Clinton dealing with PRO-RUSSIAN officials in the Ukraine. The Russians Annexed part of Urkraine thanks to the work he did for the DNC and Hillary..

So, What does crimes of the DNC have to do with Trump
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Old May 7th, 2018, 09:28 AM   #22
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The Republican President claiming (again and again, WITCH HUNT in tweet after tweet) does not mean he's innocent of anything.

And now Giuliani suggest he will take the fifth. Why if he is innocent? Why else would he take the fifth?
When did Giuliani specifically say that Trump was taking the 5th? Since absolutely no evidence has been found concerning Trump and Russian collusion, what else would you call it? IMO, the Democrats got caught with their pants down and are now desperately trying to change the narrative. Which begs the question, why hasn't a Special Counsel been appointed to investigate the obvious collusion between Hillary, and the DNC, in regards to an illegal dossier obtained from a foreign agent?
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Then that judge better read the mandate given to Mueller by the DOJ.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...r-special.html

Pay close attention to (b) ii and iii and (c)
Wow, now there's a "fishing license", with extra fishing stamps.
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Clara only one problem Manaforts crimes of which he is charged was when he worked for the DNC, Hillary NOT TRUMP. The Crimes were committed from 2006-2013 when he worked with the Podesta Firm, which worked with the DNC and Hillary Clinton dealing with PRO-RUSSIAN officials in the Ukraine. The Russians Annexed part of Urkraine thanks to the work he did for the DNC and Hillary..

So, What does crimes of the DNC have to do with Trump


OH WOW! Only ONE problem??...isn't that SUPER??

YEP. Manafort has quite the resume. Seems that he worked for all kinds of people including Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Should Mueller be investigating them too?

Unfortunately, Manafort's star faded so he started scratching for work and ended up in the Philippines, Zaire, and elsewhere. THEN in 2005, Manafort was hired by Rinat Akhmetov, a Ukrainian steel magnate. AND thus--His FROM RUSSIA with LOVE affair began.

So, IF Manafort worked for the Podesta Group, you'll have to provide evidence of that. Then let's talk about the Podesta Group. Did THEY lie to the FBI? DID THEY launder money? DID the Podesta Group act as unregistered foreign agents too?
What about Hillary? YES YES. We know. Hillary did it. It doesn't matter what--SHE DID IT.
If there’s one thing we know, Crooked Hillary is to blame for everything. Why? Because Republicans want her to be, and it’s not possible to believe in two controversies at the same time.

You might say, “Gee, couldn’t it be true that Clinton engaged in some dodgy behavior AND people around Trump also engaged in dodgy behavior?”

No. The answer is no. It was decided years ago that there can only be one dodgy person, and it’s Clinton. I don’t make the rules. (Fox News does.)

Mueller indictments prove one thing: Hillary Clinton is to blame! - Chicago Tribune


WHEN can we expect your sources for the Hillary/Manafort conspiracy?
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Seriously?? Are you THAT ill-informed? THE investigation started LONG LONG before the Trump campaign and the dossier.
January 2013: The FBI becomes interested in a man named Carter Page--a guy really chummy with Russians. Ring a bell?
March 2013: The FBI becomes interested in a man named Paul Manafort--another guy really chummy with Russians. Ring a bell?
March 2013: The FBI interviews Manafort.
June 2013: The FBI interviews Page.
November 2013: Trump arrives in Russia for Miss USA and is surveilled by Russian intelligence. Enter Russian prostitutes.
May 2014: Russians working for a group called the Internet Research Agency begin their efforts to meddle in the election and American politics more broadly.
June 2014: IRAgency begins their travels around the U.S. to collect intelligence.
July 2014: Manafort is interviewed again.
April 2015: Michael Flynn begins advising ACU Strategic Partners.
June 2015: Trump announces his candidacy.
July 2015: Trump is invited to a meeting with Vlad Putin.
Summer 2015: The Russian hacking begins. DNC.
Sept 2015: Trump's relationship with Felix Sater begins.
Fall 2015: Washington Free Beacon hires a firm called Fusion GPS to conduct research on several Republican presidential candidates, including Trump.
Nov. 2015: Felix contacts Trump's attorney, Michael Cohen.
Dec. 2015: The NRA arrives in Moscow.
Dec. 2015: Flynn is back in Moscow.
Late 2015: British Intelligence detects suspicious interactions between Russia and Trump aides that they pass on to U.S. intelligence agencies.
January 2016: Cohen contacts PUTIN.
March 2016: Russian hackers begin targeting infrastructure systems inside the U.S.

The FBI again interviews Carter Page.

This list goes ON and ON. If you want to go into your denial mode, be my guest but at least try to get educated on the facts. These dates and events have been published by ALL sorts of media.
All of which meant little until, the FBI took an "unsubstantiated dossier" before a FISA judge which led to the appointment of Special Counsel. A bogus dossier paid for by Hillary and the Dems. Why isn't that being investigated?
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OH WOW! Only ONE problem??...isn't that SUPER??

YEP. Manafort has quite the resume. Seems that he worked for all kinds of people including Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Should Mueller be investigating them too?

Unfortunately, Manafort's star faded so he started scratching for work and ended up in the Philippines, Zaire, and elsewhere. THEN in 2005, Manafort was hired by Rinat Akhmetov, a Ukrainian steel magnate. AND thus--His FROM RUSSIA with LOVE affair began.

So, IF Manafort worked for the Podesta Group, you'll have to provide evidence of that. Then let's talk about the Podesta Group. Did THEY lie to the FBI? DID THEY launder money? DID the Podesta Group act as unregistered foreign agents too?
What about Hillary? YES YES. We know. Hillary did it. It doesn't matter what--SHE DID IT.
If there’s one thing we know, Crooked Hillary is to blame for everything. Why? Because Republicans want her to be, and it’s not possible to believe in two controversies at the same time.

You might say, “Gee, couldn’t it be true that Clinton engaged in some dodgy behavior AND people around Trump also engaged in dodgy behavior?”

No. The answer is no. It was decided years ago that there can only be one dodgy person, and it’s Clinton. I don’t make the rules. (Fox News does.)

Mueller indictments prove one thing: Hillary Clinton is to blame! - Chicago Tribune


WHEN can we expect your sources for the Hillary/Manafort conspiracy?
If you want to look into history, try looking into Mueller's history.
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When did Giuliani specifically say that Trump was taking the 5th? Since absolutely no evidence has been found concerning Trump and Russian collusion, what else would you call it? IMO, the Democrats got caught with their pants down and are now desperately trying to change the narrative. Which begs the question, why hasn't a Special Counsel been appointed to investigate the obvious collusion between Hillary, and the DNC, in regards to an illegal dossier obtained from a foreign agent?


Here's what Rudy said: Trump could take the 5th Amendment or not comply with subpoena to testify.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=54962255

Why do you make statements that are so misleading? YOU HAVE NO IDEA what Mueller has or DOES NOT HAVE on Trump. IN fact, no one does so stop lying. The Democrats have not been charged because APPARENTLY (and I know this is heartbreaking news for YOU) ...... better sit down......

THEY DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW.
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Here's what Rudy said: Trump could take the 5th Amendment or not comply with subpoena to testify.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=54962255

Why do you make statements that are so misleading? YOU HAVE NO IDEA what Mueller has or DOES NOT HAVE on Trump. IN fact, no one does so stop lying. The Democrats have not been charged because APPARENTLY (and I know this is heartbreaking news for YOU) ...... better sit down......

THEY DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW.
Anyone can plead the 5th, it does not mean they are guilty of a crime, It means they are smart enough to know a perjury trap.

Kenn Starr was a darn good guy... he informed Bill Clinton about the Dress BEFORE he testified, in order to prevent him from committing Perjury for the 3rd time. (Remember Clinton pleaded to all crimes he was charged in his impeachment on 1/21/18 (the day he left office)
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Here's what Rudy said: Trump could take the 5th Amendment or not comply with subpoena to testify.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=54962255

Why do you make statements that are so misleading? YOU HAVE NO IDEA what Mueller has or DOES NOT HAVE on Trump. IN fact, no one does so stop lying. The Democrats have not been charged because APPARENTLY (and I know this is heartbreaking news for YOU) ...... better sit down......

THEY DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW.
If and or, is not a specific answer. Nor does Trump have to be subject to a subpoena.
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Old May 7th, 2018, 10:16 AM   #30
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Here's what Rudy said: Trump could take the 5th Amendment or not comply with subpoena to testify.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=54962255

Why do you make statements that are so misleading? YOU HAVE NO IDEA what Mueller has or DOES NOT HAVE on Trump. IN fact, no one does so stop lying. The Democrats have not been charged because APPARENTLY (and I know this is heartbreaking news for YOU) ...... better sit down......

THEY DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW.
Scooter Libby didn't break the law either, he misstated the dates he received Emails... then he was charged with perjury.

Joe Wilson (Valarie Plame's Husband violated the law) by at a Diplomatic Function in Nigeria (Where she was working as a CIA Operative) introducting her as "My CIA Wife"
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