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Old May 9th, 2018, 02:28 PM   #11
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What's a CHATER school??
Yeah, I was wondering about that too.
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OH ..... Did you mean CHARTER SCHOOLS? You mean like THESE charter schools?

Google Arizona Charter School Fraud and you'll be amazed:
Charter schools are public schools. They spend your money.

Unfortunately, the Republicans who control the Legislature have decided that you and I shouldn’t know HOW charter schools spend our money. So when they fail, it often comes as a complete surprise. To students and their parents, anyway.
Dozens fail every year due to no oversight and failure to file reports. Of course the AZ GOP Legislature is just fine with that.

It’s a rip-off and a scam and the Republicans who control the Legislature allow it to go on. They refuse to enact the same kind of transparency and accountability rules for charters that are imposed on other public schools.

In its report on the financial shenanigans allowed to go on within charter schools the Grand Canyon Institute pointed to things like a lack of competitive bidding, which allows self-serving charter holders to enrich themselves and their relatives on the taxpayer dime.

Charter school apologists like Gov. Doug Ducey argue that charters need to be less restricted than other public so they can innovate.

Bull. Charter schools get away with murder. No transparency. No one is checking their records so they are free to LIE about their numbers and their supposed success.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.550984322982
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Old May 9th, 2018, 06:58 PM   #13
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CHATE is an Old English word and still used in Scottish to mean "cheat". It does make the OP quite funny if you think about it.
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Old May 9th, 2018, 07:03 PM   #14
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On top of all the other points here, parents who send children to these schools are, by definition, more involved in their children’s education. One of the best indicators to how well a child will do in school is how involved their parents are.
Not necessarily, my Oldest daughter attended a Charter School.. There were students from the Settle Court area of Nashville. When she attended the school was 49% African American. in a community where only 21% of the population is African American.. Most of the African American Students were from single parent homes. (how did they get to school they used Metro Bus passes supplied to the students through the school counseling services)

Those African American Students were in a district where the one of the WORST SCHOOLS were located.
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Old May 9th, 2018, 07:42 PM   #15
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None of those tiny charter schools could hold a candle to the first tax supported public school in the world, still in operation today, and probably the best high school in America.
Boston Latin School.
Who told you that, Google? Read a history book.

There were public schools going back to antiquity and as far as I know, there were no self-funding governments then nor now. There just was not much value in sending your kid to learn hieroglyphs or runes when the crops and livestocks needed the manual labor to nurture it to fruition for the survival of the family/village/etc.

What is valuable as knowledge and skills have changed over time. In our modern society, you need a formal higher education post graduate degree just to become an obscure minor member of a team of engineers to design an automobile, even down to the gosh darn door handle. In the old days you just built a cart the way it was shown to you by your father. That is why we have surnames such as Cartwright, Wheeler, and so on.

The ancient Spartans required that any male 7 years or older to attend the mandatory public school. Today, that would be equivalent to the higher education provided by West Point and Annapolis.
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Before all the ranting against charter schools, I would suggest you look for a little information on such things as curriculum, rules, etc. I would bet the charter schools spend the majority of the day on core subject matter; math, English, Am history, world history, science and not on "social problems". promoting protests, etc.
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I understand the motivation for parents that want to send their children to private schooling given the state of the public schools. However, if the parents have that much money available, the child(ren) would benefit orders of magnitude more from properly guided homeschooling, hire tutors when necessary, academic/art/athletic camps, "field trips", online programs, seeking proper mentors in various areas, community college during teenage years, etc. etc. and save up the rest in an account to give them when they are 18 (or so) for them to do as they chose with.
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What makes you think it costs a lot of money to attend a Charter school? And Just how much would all you suggest parents do, to implement the bad public school that you suggest? Why spend tax dollars at all on schools that perform so poorly???
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Who told you that, Google? Read a history book.

There were public schools going back to antiquity and as far as I know, there were no self-funding governments then nor now. There just was not much value in sending your kid to learn hieroglyphs or runes when the crops and livestocks needed the manual labor to nurture it to fruition for the survival of the family/village/etc.

What is valuable as knowledge and skills have changed over time. In our modern society, you need a formal higher education post graduate degree just to become an obscure minor obscure member of a team of engineers to design an automobile, even down to the gosh darn door handle. In the old days you just built a cart the way it was shown to you by your father. That is why we have surnames such as Cartwright, Wheeler, and so on.

The ancient Spartans required that any male 7 years or older to attend the mandatory public school. Today, that would be equivalent to the higher education provided by West Point and Annapolis.
Founded in 1635, the first tax supported school, supported by a tax on sheep grazing on the Boston Common, it was free to the children of the town, located on whats now known as School St in Boston, today it's called Boston Latin School, located on Avenue Louis Pasteur, it's an exam school, part of the Boston Public school system, the oldest public school in the world.
Every year, they send more graduates to Ivy League schools, than the schools on that list graduate.
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Founded in 1635, the first tax supported school, supported by a tax on sheep grazing on the Boston Common, it was free to the children of the town, located on whats now known as School St in Boston, today it's called Boston Latin School, located on Avenue Louis Pasteur, it's an exam school, part of the Boston Public school system, the oldest public school in the world.
Every year, they send more graduates to Ivy League schools, than the schools on that list graduate.
You mean schools like their 2 most notable Graduates attended?

"Is our children learning" GW Bush attended

or

"I Visited 57 states with 2 more to go." Obama Graduated from.
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