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Old May 10th, 2018, 03:41 AM   #21
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Big surprise.

Private school eduction is better than public school education.

Who cares where it exists?

I went to private school almost my entire life (I went to public school the last half of my junior and my senior year of high school because I wanted to spend time in a public school before going to college).

It has excellent academic standing.

It is located in Louisville, Kentucky.

I can ASSURE you, the public education in Louisville, Kentucky is not near the top of the academic pyramid in the U.S.

You pay more money, you get more.

What a surprising concept.

If you go to Hoodinks, North Dakota and build a $600million home, Hoodinks, NK will have the most exclusive address in America.
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Old May 10th, 2018, 04:53 AM   #22
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Before all the ranting against charter schools, I would suggest you look for a little information on such things as curriculum, rules, etc. I would bet the charter schools spend the majority of the day on core subject matter; math, English, Am history, world history, science and not on "social problems". promoting protests, etc.

AND you would lose that bet. Public SCHOOLS are required BY LAW (state statutes and regulations) to fulfill certain requirements for grades K-12. Those requirements are found in ALL 50 states: English, Math, Social Studies/history, Science, PE, Arts, Foreign Language, and elective units. Google your state.

Public School districts are also required BY LAW to submit hundreds of reports and documentation: School Board meeting minutes, student records, testing records, scores, attendance, personal information, immunization records, enrollment histories, transcripts, health records, transfers, disciplinary reports...pages and pages of files that are kept as permanent records. Public schools require specific requirements for teachers--background checks, fingerprinting, educational requirements and certifications. It's called being highly qualified--a holdover from the GW Bush administration. Many private schools do NOT require these certifications.

Charter schools, home schools, private/parochial schools are NOT held to the same standards which is why there is so much fraud in some of these areas.
There are some very good charter schools but parents should do a thorough background check before enrolling their children.

AND one more point. Unless you have worked in a public school, volunteered in a public school or tutored in a public school in the last 5 years........shut your pie hole because you have no idea what's really happening in our schools.
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Old May 10th, 2018, 05:09 AM   #23
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AND you would lose that bet. Public SCHOOLS are required BY LAW (state statutes and regulations) to fulfill certain requirements for grades K-12. Those requirements are found in ALL 50 states: English, Math, Social Studies/history, Science, PE, Arts, Foreign Language, and elective units. Google your state.

Public School districts are also required BY LAW to submit hundreds of reports and documentation: School Board meeting minutes, student records, testing records, scores, attendance, personal information, immunization records, enrollment histories, transcripts, health records, transfers, disciplinary reports...pages and pages of files that are kept as permanent records. Public schools require specific requirements for teachers--background checks, fingerprinting, educational requirements and certifications. It's called being highly qualified--a holdover from the GW Bush administration. Many private schools do NOT require these certifications.

Charter schools, home schools, private/parochial schools are NOT held to the same standards which is why there is so much fraud in some of these areas.
There are some very good charter schools but parents should do a thorough background check before enrolling their children.

AND one more point. Unless you have worked in a public school, volunteered in a public school or tutored in a public school in the last 5 years........shut your pie hole because you have no idea what's really happening in our schools.
@Clara

It is as though you are completely oblivious to how much great resources & information there is out there, and just how inadequate (at best) the public school curriculum is--not to mention other significant problems.
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What's a CHATER school??


A school where they can't even chatter properly?
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Old May 10th, 2018, 05:52 AM   #25
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It is as though you are completely oblivious to how much great resources & information there is out there, and just how inadequate (at best) the public school curriculum is--not to mention other significant problems.


It's as though you are an egotistical, self-important CHILD who doesn't know up from siccum.
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Old May 10th, 2018, 06:25 AM   #26
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It's as though you are an egotistical, self-important CHILD who doesn't know up from siccum.
@Clara

One would (hope to) think an educator would take their own education seriously. However, sadly, that is overwhelmingly not the case. To be fair, most people in most professions do not take their work seriously--just a job to get by. Fair enough, but then don't demand anyone should respect you for that--even if they may (or may not) engage in other activities that are worthy of respect.
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Big surprise.

Private school eduction is better than public school education.

Who cares where it exists?

I went to private school almost my entire life (I went to public school the last half of my junior and my senior year of high school because I wanted to spend time in a public school before going to college).

It has excellent academic standing.

It is located in Louisville, Kentucky.

I can ASSURE you, the public education in Louisville, Kentucky is not near the top of the academic pyramid in the U.S.

You pay more money, you get more.

What a surprising concept.

If you go to Hoodinks, North Dakota and build a $600million home, Hoodinks, NK will have the most exclusive address in America.
Many if not most Charter schools are PUBLIC schools.
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Old May 10th, 2018, 11:23 AM   #28
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Charter schools, in our State ,have to State requirments. Point is the charter schools do a much better job of implementing those and actually "teaching" the subject. Our reservation has it's own school, it is open to any who want to attend, and they are under the State requirements but also add some of their own. It has been doing great and reaching many HS kids that formerly would have just dropped out of school....that rate has gone way down.
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Old May 10th, 2018, 11:57 AM   #29
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None of those tiny charter schools could hold a candle to the first tax supported public school in the world, still in operation today, and probably the best high school in America.
Boston Latin Schoo
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Founded in 1635, the first tax supported school, supported by a tax on sheep grazing on the Boston Common, it was free to the children of the town, located on whats now known as School St in Boston, today it's called Boston Latin School, located on Avenue Louis Pasteur, it's an exam school, part of the Boston Public school system, the oldest public school in the world.
Every year, they send more graduates to Ivy League schools, than the schools on that list graduate.
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The first American schools in the thirteen original colonies opened in the 17th century. Boston Latin School was founded in 1635 and is both the first public school and oldest existing school in the United States.[1] The first free taxpayer-supported public school in North America, the Mather School, was opened in Dorchester, Massachusetts, in 1639.[2][3] Cremin (1970) stresses that colonists tried at first to educate by the traditional English methods of family, church, community, and apprenticeship, with schools later becoming the key agent in "socialization." At first, the rudiments of literacy and arithmetic were taught inside the family, assuming the parents had those skills. Literacy rates were much higher in New England because much of the population had been deeply involved in the Protestant Reformation and learned to read in order to read the Scriptures. Literacy was much lower in the South, where the Anglican Church was the established church. Single working-class people formed a large part of the population in the early years, arriving as indentured servants. The planter class did not support public education but arranged for private tutors for their children, and sent some to England at appropriate ages for further education.
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Establishment of the school was due in great measure to the influence of the Reverend John Cotton, who sought to create in the New World a school like the Free Grammar School of Boston, England, in which Latin and Greek were taught. The first classes were held in the home of the Master, Philemon Pormort (see Footnotes). From the earliest years the town assigned public funds to the support of the school. It was eventually voted "to allow forever fifty pounds to the Master, and a house, and thirty pounds to an usher" (assistant teacher). In 1638, Pormort's assistant, Daniel Maude, succeeded him as Master, and conducted classes in his own home until 1643.
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The school was founded by charter of Philip and Mary in 1555. The oldest sections of the school were built in 1567, formerly referred to as the "big school" and is now used as the school library. South End Site became the model for Boston Latin School which was the first school in what was to become the United States of America. The school still retains the Latin motto 'Floreat Bostona' (May Boston Flourish). This motto also forms the title of the official school song, written by Dr G.E. Pattenden, headmaster from 1850–1887, which he referred to as 'my school hymn'. The song is still sung at official school occasions such as Prizegiving, Charter Day and Beastmart, and is generally fondly remembered by Old Boys of the school.

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It's as though you are an egotistical, self-important CHILD who doesn't know up from siccum.
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Thank you, ma'am. Have a nice day
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