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Old May 11th, 2018, 03:40 AM   #41
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you seem to be posting this as a virtue. I see it as a core problem.


How? How is it a problem?
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Teaching is the worst job I ever did and no wonder they are called Chater sic Chapter. Too much chattering going on and let's get down to Basic Education. Start at the square root of two and not Shakespeare. 1.414 is the square root of two which figures prudently in the speed of light.
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Old May 11th, 2018, 04:12 AM   #43
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Lots of information missing there.
Nope, 17 of the top 20 schools are in Red States. (you see Red States are the states that have accept school choice at a much greater pace)

you see if you children a choice, they adapt better

I stated this in an earlier post my oldest daughter wanted to go into finance, and she began her foreign language in 5th grade (she attended charter schools from 5th grade until she graduated) in 5th grade she had to take 1/4 of French, then German then Spanish then Latin. at the end of the year she had to choose the language she would study.. she chose german by the time she graduated she had 6 years of German, she was an exchange student to a sister school in Germany twice we had a German Exchange Student come live with us twice (the period they stayed in each country was 3 months each year) she chose Meigs and Hume Fogg as her schools. She offered a scholarships for Emory, University of TN, Alabama and Vanderbilt.

My other daughter Music was her interest, she chose to attend McGavock Comprehensive High School which had the music program she wanted. She got a near full ride to a private college playing the French Horn and Singing..

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Old May 11th, 2018, 11:52 AM   #44
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How? How is it a problem?
Because because of those things the bloated administration can justify cannibalizing a large portion of the coveted resorces that other wise would be allocated to actual education leaving the teachers on the front lines ill equipped to property do the job they signed up to do. Like teaching kids how to avoid ridiculous run-on sentences.
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And to make matters worse. Devos at the Dpt of Ed has all but disbanded the department who's job it was to investigate fraud in the FOR PROFIT schools.
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Old May 14th, 2018, 08:17 AM   #46
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Because because of those things the bloated administration can justify cannibalizing a large portion of the coveted resorces that other wise would be allocated to actual education leaving the teachers on the front lines ill equipped to property do the job they signed up to do. Like teaching kids how to avoid ridiculous run-on sentences.


YEAH--good job with the run-on sentence!

Well, I agree with you about bloated admin! That's been one of the problems in AZ and CO. The "raises" go directly to the school super. He/She is the one who gets to disperse those dollars....so the so-called 20% AZ raise (3 year plan) is completely useless because 1) The super decides the district needs a new soccer field first 2) The super needs another secretary and 3) the state legislature has to approve the SAME raise every STINKIN' year. There is no guarantee at all that the money will make it to the classroom...and for the last 10 years....IT HASN'T.

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And to make matters worse. Devos at the Dpt of Ed has all but disbanded the department who's job it was to investigate fraud in the FOR PROFIT schools.


Betsy DeVoid is useless. Anyone watch the 60 Minutes special devoted to Betsy??

What did people expect from a cabinet member who *Never got an education degree *Never taught in school--public or private *Never administrated *Never attended a public school high school OR COLLEGE *Never had her children attend public school *Never liked the public school system and in fact funneled money away from public schools touting her philosophy that taking money AWAY from public schools would make them BETTER.

AND this woman--another completely unqualified billionaire-- is supposed to be an advocate, a champion for our public school system??

Now (along with all the other crapola) we find out that DeVos is quashing the investigations of fraud within the for-profit schools??

Is there ANY LEVEL in this administration that works properly? Anyone who is qualified in Trump's cabinet?? ANYONE??????
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WHOOOOPPPTEEEEE DOOOOOOOO !!!

Out of more than 6000 charter schools this little group ALL OF THEM IN VERY ALLFUENT AREAS, top the list. The TRUTH is, the public schools in those areas probably perform very well. The other issue is that MOST of these schools are run by ONE corporation.

Charter schools can PICK AND CHOOSE which students they accept. So they ONLY get the cream of the crop. Easy to look good that way. They also DON'T REPORT the drop out rate for anyone except seniors. The TRUE attrition rate at charter schools is MUCH higher than traditional schools who are forced to accommodate needy, the at risk, and or special needs student. Most charters do not, or only offer limited slots.

It's easy to look good when you can pick and chose your student body, when you don't have to report the ACTUAL attrition rate, when you don't have to deal with or put any extra effort into at risk, or special needs kids. And when you buy advertising in the magazine that rates you !!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.bf00526390f0
So can universities pick and choose and this is contributing to a widening of the gap between the affluent and those who are not affluent.

There is a country that makes sure all children socialize children who are both affluent and not affluent and that they are educated the same. The US is really retarded in its efforts to manifest the ideals of democracy.
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On top of all the other points here, parents who send children to these schools are, by definition, more involved in their children’s education. One of the best indicators to how well a child will do in school is how involved their parents are.
I was raised by a single mother who supported my sister and I without help from my father at time when women did women's work for low pay. I grew up in the poorest neighborhoods, then at age 18 I met my father and lived with his second family in an exclusive neighborhood. It was a totally different reality! The notion that we all share the same reality is just wrong!

And for sure, how well a child does in school is strongly influenced by the child's home.

My science projects were nowhere near as impressive as my half sister's science project. My half sister's science project was radiated peas that were planted. Our father held a high position at NASA so it was not a problem for him to radiate the peas, and he was curious if this would make a difference in their growth. Shit, her project was slightly more impressive than the flour and water paste lung that I made and colored, and that cracked up when it dried and was garbage by the time the teacher graded it. How children experience themselves in such different families and what they come to expect of themselves and life is very different. It is the feeling we live with as we grow up, and identify as the feeling that defines who we are, that makes all the difference.
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So can universities pick and choose and this is contributing to a widening of the gap between the affluent and those who are not affluent.

There is a country that makes sure all children socialize children who are both affluent and not affluent and that they are educated the same. The US is really retarded in its efforts to manifest the ideals of democracy.

Of course, universities can pick and choose who they want. Most top-notch colleges are very picky about their applicants. There's a PROCESS. I know there are exceptions but...... Which kids get the 4.+ grade points? Which kids are in the most extra-currics? Which kids have their own laptops? Which kids have traveled? Had tutors? Volunteer experience? College credits? Art, music, theater? Which kids are articulate? Which kids can afford $40-50,00/yearly tuition? Which kids parents are ALUMS of said UNIVERSITY?

Public schools try to prepare ALL KIDS for life in the big-bad world. There is not now NOR has there ever been a level playing field for ALL KIDS.

Here's what Harvard is looking for.
https://college.harvard.edu/admissio...s/what-we-look
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