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Old May 12th, 2018, 09:10 AM   #21
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And, here is a LINK to the actual recording.

I didn't know you were a big fan of FoxNews.


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Oh JWK! There are obviously MANY things you don't know about me. But back to the LINK.

I stand by my statement which was this: There’s no evidence for the claim that McCain betrayed his country in captivity.
You are switching the subject which has to do with torture. Was torture used to get McCain to make a propaganda recording?

As confirmed above:


”McCain's U.S. Senate office could not confirm the authenticity of the recording, but one McCain aide, speaking on condition that his name not be published, told New Times the following:

"Senator McCain has spoken candidly for years, in media interviews and his own memoir, of making a false confession tape after being tortured as a POW in North Vietnam. Although his 'confession' was coerced by days of extreme physical abuse, he always regretted it."


So, why has FoxNews banned McInerney for stating a fact?


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Old May 12th, 2018, 09:20 AM   #22
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Stop lying. What was stated by McInerney is as follows: "It worked on John [McCain]. That's why they call him 'Songbird John'" Many of those who served with McCain gave him that name. Just like many of those who served with John Kerry called him a traitor.

Stop misrepresenting what McInerney said.


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Did he use the word “songbird” in referring to McCain? Yes.

Was there any need to use the disparaging term in context of what he was talking about? No.

Those are the only two questions that need to be answered. Any attempt to defend his use of the term “songbird” is disgusting.
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Old May 12th, 2018, 09:43 AM   #23
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Stop lying. What was stated by McInerney is as follows: "It worked on John [McCain]. That's why they call him 'Songbird John'" Many of those who served with McCain gave him that name. Just like many of those who served with John Kerry called him a traitor.

Stop misrepresenting what McInerney said.


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Did he use the word “songbird” in referring to McCain? Yes.



Did those who served with McCain and were POWs with him refer to him as "Songbird McCain"? Just like those who served with John Kerry called him a "traitor"?

Why does FoxNews find it necessary to sanitize the expressed feelings of those who were held POWs with McCain? Does their voice not count?

I guess, in your politically correct world, people like McCain and John Kerry are above being called out for their doings.


The good news is, truth and facts cannot be changed to what they are not. FoxNews has proven it has fallen to political correct claptrap nonsense.

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Old May 12th, 2018, 10:21 AM   #24
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Did those who served with McCain and were POWs with him refer to him as "Songbird McCain"? Just like those who served with John Kerry called him a "traitor"?
No.

The source of the “songbird” insult is ONE man who served in Vietnam for about a year and was never a POW.

McCain's POW record attacked, again | PolitiFact
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Old May 12th, 2018, 10:55 AM   #25
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The Vietnamese used torture on McCain, and as a result, he made a propaganda recording for them. Here is a LINK to the actual recording.




McInerney made a factual comment on FoxNews and was banned for stating a fact.



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McCain’s father was the highest ranking Admiral in the Navy at the time. The North Vietnamese wanted to free McCain for propoaganda appearances. McCain REFUSED to leave unless all the other POW’s were released as well. He remained a POW for two more years worth of torture for his refusal. Doesn’t sound like a guy who couldn’t take torture to me. You are a dick and a coward just like the disgraced retired general who was even too much for FOX Blues. You suck coward !!!!!!
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Vietnam POW Activists Called McCain ‘Songbird’ and ‘Manchurian Candidate’

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The source of the “songbird” insult is ONE man who served in Vietnam for about a year and was never a POW.

McCain's POW record attacked, again | PolitiFact

Take a trip to a VA hospital, such as Bay Pines, Florida, and you will find John McCain is often referred to as "Songbird John", especially by our older vets.


In any event, see Vietnam POW Activists Called McCain ‘Songbird’ and ‘Manchurian Candidate’

Among groups who oppose John McCain, the most serious charges come from a small but fervent cadre of Vietnam POW/MIA activists who accuse him of being a collaborator during his time in the Vietnamese POW camps.

They call McCain “Songbird,” and say he received special treatment. Some in the POW community even believe he was brainwashed like Raymond Shaw, the character played by Laurence Harvey in “The Manchurian candidate,” who was used as a tool by the communists to destroy America from within.


So, once again you are proven wrong.


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McCain’s father was the highest ranking Admiral in the Navy at the time. The North Vietnamese wanted to free McCain for propoaganda appearances. McCain REFUSED to leave unless all the other POW’s were released as well. He remained a POW for two more years worth of torture for his refusal. Doesn’t sound like a guy who couldn’t take torture to me. You are a dick and a coward just like the disgraced retired general who was even too much for FOX Blues. You suck coward !!!!!!
Did McCain, after being tortured, make the recording or not? The answer to this question is as follows:


”McCain's U.S. Senate office could not confirm the authenticity of the recording, but one McCain aide, speaking on condition that his name not be published, told New Times the following:

"Senator McCain has spoken candidly for years, in media interviews and his own memoir, of making a false confession tape after being tortured as a POW in North Vietnam. Although his 'confession' was coerced by days of extreme physical abuse, he always regretted it."



It is not a stain on McCain's record to confirm he was tortured into making a propaganda recording. It is a stain on McCain's record to lie that torture does not work.

Your personal attack and insults directed at me does not change the truth.



The only remaining question is, Why has FoxNew joined the political correct clap trap crowd?

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[QUOTE=johnwk;1166915]Did McCain, after being tortured, make the recording or not? The answer to this question is as follows:


”McCain's U.S. Senate office could not confirm the authenticity of the recording, but one McCain aide, speaking on condition that his name not be published, told New Times the following:

"Senator McCain has spoken candidly for years, in media interviews and his own memoir, of making a false confession tape after being tortured as a POW in North Vietnam. Although his 'confession' was coerced by days of extreme physical abuse, he always regretted it."



It is not a stain on McCain's record to confirm he was tortured into making a propaganda recording. It is a stain on McCain's record to lie that torture does not work.

Your personal attack and insults directed at me does not change the truth.

The only remaining question is, Why has FoxNew joined the political correct clap trap crowd?

JWK


1) Because McCain has been a lawmaker for 30 years & GOP member
2) Because McCain served in our military
3) Because McCain, the POW, was captured and tortured
4) Because McInerny is a crude, rude bastard
5) Because the accusations were false and derogatory
6) Because people have respect for McCain, his family and his imminent death
7) Because these words neither reflect the host or the network’s feelings about Sen. McCain or his remarkable service and sacrifice to this country??
Because of all the above
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Did McCain, after being tortured, make the recording or not? The answer to this question is as follows:


”McCain's U.S. Senate office could not confirm the authenticity of the recording, but one McCain aide, speaking on condition that his name not be published, told New Times the following:

"Senator McCain has spoken candidly for years, in media interviews and his own memoir, of making a false confession tape after being tortured as a POW in North Vietnam. Although his 'confession' was coerced by days of extreme physical abuse, he always regretted it."



It is not a stain on McCain's record to confirm he was tortured into making a propaganda recording. It is a stain on McCain's record to lie that torture does not work.

Your personal attack and insults directed at me does not change the truth.



The only remaining question is, Why has FoxNew joined the political correct clap trap crowd?

JWK




The unavoidable truth is, our Fifth Column social democrat political leaders’ plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by confiscating the paychecks of millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.

You are still a loser and a coward. A sniveling creep like you isn’t worthy of shining McCain’s shoes. Go back to your spider hole creep.
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Old May 12th, 2018, 02:58 PM   #30
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Did McCain, after being tortured, make the recording or not? The answer to this question is as follows:


”McCain's U.S. Senate office could not confirm the authenticity of the recording, but one McCain aide, speaking on condition that his name not be published, told New Times the following:

"Senator McCain has spoken candidly for years, in media interviews and his own memoir, of making a false confession tape after being tortured as a POW in North Vietnam. Although his 'confession' was coerced by days of extreme physical abuse, he always regretted it."



It is not a stain on McCain's record to confirm he was tortured into making a propaganda recording. It is a stain on McCain's record to lie that torture does not work.

Your personal attack and insults directed at me does not change the truth.

The only remaining question is, Why has FoxNew joined the political correct clap trap crowd?

JWK

1) Because McCain has been a lawmaker for 30 years & GOP member
2) Because McCain served in our military
3) Because McCain, the POW, was captured and tortured
4) Because McInerny is a crude, rude bastard
5) Because the accusations were false and derogatory
6) Because people have respect for McCain, his family and his imminent death
7) Because these words neither reflect the host or the network’s feelings about Sen. McCain or his remarkable service and sacrifice to this country??
Because of all the above


FoxNews banning Lt. General Thomas McInerney, for stating a fact: "It worked on John [McCain]. That's why they call him 'Songbird John'" is very troubling to me as it indicates FoxNews has jumped on the politically correct bandwagon.

As stated at the top of the thread: ”McCain's U.S. Senate office could not confirm the authenticity of the recording, but one McCain aide, speaking on condition that his name not be published, told New Times the following:

"Senator McCain has spoken candidly for years, in media interviews and his own memoir, of making a false confession tape after being tortured as a POW in North Vietnam. Although his 'confession' was coerced by days of extreme physical abuse, he always regretted it."



In my mind, it is not a stain on McCain's record to confirm he was tortured into making a propaganda recording. But it is a stain on the record of FoxNews to ban a guest for stating torture worked in McCain's situation, which turns out to be true!


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