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Old May 16th, 2018, 03:54 PM   #1
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Tillerson makes veiled criticism of Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rex-tille...202733140.html

“If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom,” Tillerson said.

“A responsibility of every American citizen to each other is to preserve and protect our freedom by recognizing what truth is and is not, what a fact is and is not, and to begin by holding ourselves accountable to truthfulness and demand our pursuit of America’s future be fact-based, not based on wishful thinking, not hoped-for outcomes made in shallow promises, but with a clear-eyed view of the facts as they are and guided by the truth that will set us free to seek solutions to our most daunting challenges.”


It’s great to see some of these people coming out and saying this but the time for diplomacy is over. Tillerson should not be making veiled references, he should be naming names.
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I was wary of Tillerson initially, but he proved to be one of the if not the most sane members of the Trump administration.

Naturally, he's gone.
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Even his own Cabinet members now state the obvious.
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“If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom,” Tillerson said.

“A responsibility of every American citizen to each other is to preserve and protect our freedom by recognizing what truth is and is not, what a fact is and is not, and to begin by holding ourselves accountable to truthfulness and demand our pursuit of America’s future be fact-based, not based on wishful thinking, not hoped-for outcomes made in shallow promises, but with a clear-eyed view of the facts as they are and guided by the truth that will set us free to seek solutions to our most daunting challenges.”


It’s great to see some of these people coming out and saying this but the time for diplomacy is over. Tillerson should not be making veiled references, he should be naming names.
Actually that is a Total Calling out of the Previous Administration.
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“If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom,” Tillerson said.

“A responsibility of every American citizen to each other is to preserve and protect our freedom by recognizing what truth is and is not, what a fact is and is not, and to begin by holding ourselves accountable to truthfulness and demand our pursuit of America’s future be fact-based, not based on wishful thinking, not hoped-for outcomes made in shallow promises, but with a clear-eyed view of the facts as they are and guided by the truth that will set us free to seek solutions to our most daunting challenges.”


It’s great to see some of these people coming out and saying this but the time for diplomacy is over. Tillerson should not be making veiled references, he should be naming names.
Could the same be said of some of those in the FBI? Can we apply that standard to the Democrats, FBI, and DOJ? And to great extent, Congress and the Court in general. Power tends to corrupt. We've had decades of government trying to move from a Federal form to a National form. Constitutional restrictions no longer apply. Middle America sent a message to this government in the last elections cycle, by electing an outsider, that the status-quo was not going to be tolerated anymore. The truth has to be looked at objectively. Are we seeing that?

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Actually that is a Total Calling out of the Previous Administration.
What is the weather like in your alternate reality?
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Could the same be said of some of those in the FBI? Can we apply that standard to the Democrats, FBI, and DOJ? And to great extent, Congress and the Court in general. Power tends to corrupt. We've had decades of government trying to move from a Federal form to a National form. Constitutional restrictions no longer apply. Middle America sent a message to this government in the last elections cycle, by electing an outsider, that the status-quo was not going to be tolerated anymore. The truth has to be looked at objectively. Are we seeing that?
If Trump was the answer, WHAT WAS THE FUCKING QUESTION ????????
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If Trump was the answer, WHAT WAS THE FUCKING QUESTION ????????
How do you fix Obama's FUBAR?
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Why are there two identical threads, even down to the responses.
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Power tends to corrupt.
If power 'tends to corrupt,' what do we get with a leader who was beyond corrupt from the beginning? Where do we go from there?!
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