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Old June 12th, 2018, 10:09 AM   #21
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Although I hate to admit it, Sabcat is correct. Some of the photos of children in cages were from Obama era 2014, so actually, THOSE PHOTOS should clear up any LIES about Obama's "welcome mat" and open borders.
The whole episode perfectly illustrates how immigration ó or the governmentís mistreatment of migrants, to be specific ó has of late turned into a game of political hot potato, not helped by the fact that itís an incredibly confusing issue. The nearly 1,500 missing children were widely conflated with Trumpís family-separation policy, for instance, but those kids were actually minors who crossed the border by themselves.

BUT...Obama never established a policy that specifically mandated that kids be separated from parents at the US-Mexico border. This a new, Trump-era innovation in cruelty.

Here are some things that Obama DID DO:
Arrested tens of thousands of undocumented parents whose kids were US citizens, causing them to lose contact with their children.

Those parents were deported to countries they hadn't lived in for decades.

Thousands of kids were left orphaned without a legal guardian.

Hundreds of families were separated--typically husbands and wives.

Trump simply took an Obama policy and made it worse.
No, it doesn't clear Obimbo! If not for Obimbo's agenda these cages would have not been needed.
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Old June 12th, 2018, 10:51 AM   #22
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Kate, a lot of these people are seeking asylum, that's legal entry. And no, posting photos of this kind of thing at the border is not the answer, stopping this kind of treatment is.
Seeking asylum from what? The Cartel? The crappy Mexican Govt?
If this is so, and they are legal, who decides that?
And why the hell are we interfering with the Middle East governments and not Mexico's?!
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Old June 12th, 2018, 11:06 AM   #23
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Kate, a lot of these people are seeking asylum, that's legal entry. And no, posting photos of this kind of thing at the border is not the answer, stopping this kind of treatment is.
Its only legal if Asylum is granted
The ones who just came in our not from Mexico. They traveled through Mexico (not asking for asylum in Mexico) to get to the USA to ask for Asylum here.

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Old June 12th, 2018, 01:09 PM   #24
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It doesnít matter who started it or when. Now is the time to do something about it. You can piss and moan all you like, but the fact remains that this treatment needs to stop. Or do you think this is Ok?
I don't care. They should go thru the proper channels to gain entry, visas and possible citizenship.

What do you propose, a room at the four seasons?
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Old June 12th, 2018, 01:21 PM   #25
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I don't care. They should go thru the proper channels to gain entry, visas and possible citizenship.

What do you propose, a room at the four seasons?
are you seriously unable to find some kind of middle ground for a toddler between a room at the Four Seasons and a dogcage?

seriously?
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are you seriously unable to find some kind of middle ground for a toddler between a room at the Four Seasons and a dogcage?

seriously?
That is not a very good proposal
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are you seriously unable to find some kind of middle ground for a toddler between a room at the Four Seasons and a dogcage?

seriously?
I asked earlier what the middle ground might be, and no one has answered yet. Would tent cities be acceptable, or would those also be complained about? Perhaps the metal enclosures ARE a middle ground. Calling them dog cages seems rather racist to me.
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No, it doesn't clear Obimbo! If not for Obimbo's agenda these cages would have not been needed.


What is wrong with you? I CLEARLY pointed out the flaws and injustices in OBAMA'S policy.

I said absolutely NOTHING about clearing Obama.
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Calling them dog cages seems rather racist to me.
It does?

What "race" is referred to as dogs commonly in slurs?

I must be behind the trends.

I know of the "camel" slurs for Middle Easterners, the "ape/monkey" slurs for blacks, the "frog" slurs for the French - who are the dogs?
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What do you propose, a room at the four seasons?
I propose leaving children with their parents.

Even the Nazis did that with the Jews until they gassed them.
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