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Old June 12th, 2018, 08:44 AM   #41
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Oh really? But insulting our actual allies days before was a great way to negotiate?
Yep, screw them, especially Canada, we do all the heavy lifting for our allies so they can suck it!
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By insult do you mean our allies were not accustomed to someone telling them "unfair" trade agreements would no longer be allowed? That should have come as no surprise, since our President said that before even going to the meeting.

I find it insulting our "alloes" give us no credit for the many years we have provided military to their areas, for ...their...benefit.
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By insult do you mean our allies were not accustomed to someone telling them "unfair" trade agreements would no longer be allowed? That should have come as no surprise, since our President said that before even going to the meeting.

I find it insulting our "alloes" give us no credit for the many years we have provided military to their areas, for ...their...benefit.
No, he directly insulted them. He's trying to make deals with them and started by insulting them. You think that's a good thing, but kissing the asses of dictators makes you happy too?

That's seriously fucked up.
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Old June 12th, 2018, 08:54 AM   #44
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Uh, it's just a first step, for all you retards out there in Progressive Land; and yes, he still hasn't cured cancer.
You look like you might be old enough to know better than to call people retards, but clearly, with age does not come wisdom, or even common sense.
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Old June 12th, 2018, 08:54 AM   #45
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Nope, you right wingers are hypocrites of the worst order. This is the truth;
With Iran, I don't take the position that they're adversaries the way others do & I acknowledge that they haven't started a war with anyone in over 2 centuries. The only issue I have with Iran is that they lack religious freedom there.

The US has technically been at war with NK for many decades. Although diplomatic relations between the US and Iran were severed by Carter, the US is not in the same situation with Iran as it is with NK.

Cost to the US to get Iran to free American detainees under Obama: $400 million
Cost to the US to get NK to free American prisoners under Trump: 0
Behavior by the Left, as a result - priceless

What just happened between the US and North Korea is diplomacy, with the flags, handshaking, and releasing prisoners without the cargo plane full of money shakedown.

Handshakes, not shakedowns, baby.
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With Iran, I don't take the position that they're adversaries the way others do & I acknowledge that they haven't started a war with anyone in over 2 centuries. The only issue I have with Iran is that they lack religious freedom there.

The US has technically been at war with NK for many decades. Although diplomatic relations between the US and Iran were severed by Carter, the US is not in the same situation with Iran as it is with NK.

Cost to the US to get Iran to free American detainees under Obama: $400 million
Cost to the US to get NK to free American prisoners under Trump: 0
Behavior by the Left, as a result - priceless

What just happened between the US and North Korea is diplomacy, with the flags, handshaking, and releasing prisoners without the cargo plane full of money shakedown.

Handshakes, not shakedowns, baby.
Neil, that money was owed to Iran in the first place, but I guess I should not expect honesty from you. When you're ready to debate in an honest manner, let me know.

$400 Million: Why the U.S. Owed Iran in the First Place | Time
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With Iran, I don't take the position that they're adversaries the way others do & I acknowledge that they haven't started a war with anyone in over 2 centuries. The only issue I have with Iran is that they lack religious freedom there.

The US has technically been at war with NK for many decades. Although diplomatic relations between the US and Iran were severed by Carter, the US is not in the same situation with Iran as it is with NK.

Cost to the US to get Iran to free American detainees under Obama: $400 million
Cost to the US to get NK to free American prisoners under Trump: 0
Behavior by the Left, as a result - priceless

What just happened between the US and North Korea is diplomacy, with the flags, handshaking, and releasing prisoners without the cargo plane full of money shakedown.

Handshakes, not shakedowns, baby.
Please source your claim that Obama paid Iran $400 million in return for hostages. Thanks in advance.
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Please source your claim that Obama paid Iran $400 million in return for hostages. Thanks in advance.
He can't, but the lie has already been told. The truth doesn't matter and never does to the right.
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Deflection. Why was Obamaís deal with Iran horrible but this one by the con man great ? What did Don the Con receive in return for giving North Korea legitimacy, killing the effectiveness of the sanctions and promising to end military exercises with our ally South Korea ? WHAT DID YOUR DEAR LEADER RECEIVE IN RETURN ?
Obama secretly flew a cargo plane full of $400 million worth of cash to Iran.

I don't refer to anyone as "Don the Con" & "Dear Leader" is what the North Koreans use to refer to Kim Jonj-il. I'm not a North Korean.
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With Iran, I don't take the position that they're adversaries the way others do & I acknowledge that they haven't started a war with anyone in over 2 centuries. The only issue I have with Iran is that they lack religious freedom there.

The US has technically been at war with NK for many decades. Although diplomatic relations between the US and Iran were severed by Carter, the US is not in the same situation with Iran as it is with NK.

Cost to the US to get Iran to free American detainees under Obama: $400 million
Cost to the US to get NK to free American prisoners under Trump: 0
Behavior by the Left, as a result - priceless

What just happened between the US and North Korea is diplomacy, with the flags, handshaking, and releasing prisoners without the cargo plane full of money shakedown.

Handshakes, not shakedowns, baby.
And there's religious freedom in NoKO?????
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