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Old June 12th, 2018, 02:37 PM   #11
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For a rather concise summary of the history of the "denuclearization of the Korean peninsula," please refer here.:

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Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula: Reviewing the Precedents

by Joshua Pollack | June 10, 2018 | 4 Comments

While we’re waiting for the Singapore Summit to produce whatever it produces, it may be useful to ponder the record. There’s now more than a quarter-century’s worth of statements by North Korea and various other parties that have addressed Pyongyang’s nuclear ambitions in one way or another. Taken together, they offer a yardstick for Singapore.

Don’t worry! It’s less dry than it seems. And besides, once you’ve read this, you’ll be better prepared for the summit than the President of the United States.

The story starts in the early 1990s. North Korea had been operating a small reactor well-suited for making weapons-grade plutonium since 1986. It was building two newer, larger ones, as well as a full-scale facility for reprocessing spent fuel, which is how you separate out the plutonium for making weapons.

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Continued here:

https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/arch...he-precedents/
And, based upon this history, I find it quite difficult to believe that history won't repeat itself.

And, while I do sincerely give some credit to Trump for opening up lines of communication with North Korea, I somehow doubt that a country which has finally achieved, that which it has worked on for decades to achieve, will suddenly abandon that which it has achieved...that being the possession of nuclear weapons.
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It would only take a day to restart any of the war games and it cost this nation not one penny. While N Korea must ….show...it is starting to destroy it's nuclear weapons program or even that small thing is gone. Even before this meeting N Korea had "given" a return of US prisoners and a declaration it would abandon it's nuclear programs....and the world heard all that.

This is a start...it is now a wait and see and we should all hope Kim Jong un has decided his nation will not/can not continue on the same old path.
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or sending pallets of cash to the terror-capital of Tehran.
you mean their money that we had frozen in our banks?
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Old June 12th, 2018, 03:50 PM   #14
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Who did they sign these agreements with. Are you confusing public announcements with agreements? Where did we sign onto these agreements at? What was the conditions we demanded with these "agreements"?


do your own homework
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U.S.-DPRK Agreed Framework (October 21, 1994)

This document was the fruit of the process announced in June 1993. It committed the U.S. to supply North Korea with up-to-date light-water reactors for generating electricity, replacing the gas-graphite reactor technology the North Koreans had adopted for themselves, and to supply heavy fuel oil in the meantime. In exchange, North Korea agreed to freeze its reactor and associated facilities and subject them to IAEA verification. It also agreed to return to compliance with its CSA once the new reactors were nearing completion.

Furthermore, both sides agreed to move in steps toward “full normalization of political and economic relations,” and to “work together for peace and security on a nuclear-free Korean peninsula.” That’s 24 years ago now.
Wow, Clinton actually did give them something
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Here is one of the Republican President's tweets on the meeting:



Social media is pointing out that there he is, legitimizing the regime of and warmly shaking hands with a vicious murderer.
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Old June 12th, 2018, 04:57 PM   #18
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Wow, Clinton actually did give them something
He didn't give legitimacy to a cold-blooded dictator who has uncles and half-brothers executed brutally.

He didn't say it was "an honor" to meet a cold-blooded dictator who has uncles and half-brothers executed brutally.

He didn't note that Kim has "a great personality" or that he's" very smart," nor remark that's a "good combination.”

Clinton didn't declare Kim to be, "a very talented man," “a worthy negotiator … a very worthy, very smart negotiator,” or point out that "he loves his country very much.”

He definitely didn't declare, "I do trust him, yeah. … He trusts me, I believe, I really do.”

In fact, no one in their right mind would make those comments about Kim.

I see a Trump tower in North Korea, on the ocean, with a world-class golf course.
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I'm so sick of hearing about how all this is unprecedented and Trump is some kind of god to get it to happen ... dictators lie about shit every day.

1985: North Korea signs Nuclear NonProliferation Treaty
1992: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program! (#1)
1994: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program! (#2)
1999: North Korea signs historic agreement to end missile tests
2000: North Korea signs historic agreement to reunify Korea! Nobel Peace Prize is awarded
2005: North Korea declares support for "denuclearization" of Korean peninsula
2005: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program and "denuclearize"! (#3)
2006: North Korea declares support for "denuclearization" of Korean peninsula
2006: North Korea again support for "denuclearization" of Korean peninsula
2007: North Korea signs historic agreement to halt nuclear program! (#4)
2007: N&S Korea sign agreement on reunification
2010: North Korea commits to ending Korean War
2010: North Korea announces commitment to "denuclearize"
2010: North Korea again announces commitment to "denuclearize"
2011: North Korea announces plan to halt nuclear and missile tests
2012: North Korea announces halt to nuclear program
2015: North Korea offers to halt nuclear tests
2016: North Korea again announces support for "denuclearization"
Are you suggesting the the greatest negotiator in history, got swindled?

North Korea agreed it is committed to denuclearization of the Korean Penninsula, which has been it's stated position for decades.
Trump has elevated the stature of Kim, agreed to halt joint exercises with South Korea, and picked up the tab.

I'll bet Kim ordered lobster....
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He didn't give legitimacy to a cold-blooded dictator who has uncles and half-brothers executed brutally.

He didn't say it was "an honor" to meet a cold-blooded dictator who has uncles and half-brothers executed brutally.

He didn't note that Kim has "a great personality" or that he's" very smart," nor remark that's a "good combination.”

Clinton didn't declare Kim to be, "a very talented man," “a worthy negotiator … a very worthy, very smart negotiator,” or point out that "he loves his country very much.”

He definitely didn't declare, "I do trust him, yeah. … He trusts me, I believe, I really do.”

In fact, no one in their right mind would make those comments about Kim.

I see a Trump tower in North Korea, on the ocean, with a world-class golf course.
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During his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un on Tuesday, President Trump said that North Korean beaches are a prime real estate opportunity, and that some enterprising developer could build "a great condo" on the North Korean coast if the country opens up its economy to the rest of the world. The president praised both the quality and location of North Korean land, and said that the country could soon have "the best hotels in the world."

"They have great beaches," Trump said at a press conference, according to the New York Times. "You see that whenever they're exploding their cannons into the ocean. I said, 'Boy, look at that view. Wouldn't that make a great condo?'"
https://www.bustle.com/p/trumps-nort...t-what-9378167

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0bbb7a0e18c73

You actually thought this meeting was about nuclear weapon ?? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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