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Old June 13th, 2018, 04:19 PM   #1
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Dividing California got more than enough signatures to put on the November ballot. They are dividing California into three states. California, North California and South California. Even if it passes it still has to be approved by Congress.

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All they have to do to make some big changes is start replacing the Dem leadership...stuck on stupid.
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Old June 13th, 2018, 04:48 PM   #3
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All they have to do to make some big changes is start replacing the Dem leadership...stuck on stupid.
California will then have six Senators rather than just two which is all they deserve. There is reason behind their madness.

edit: Not to mention that someway two more stars have to be added to the American Flag. Calling Betsy Ross!

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Dividing California got more than enough signatures to put on the November ballot. They are dividing California into three states. California, North California and South California. Even if it passes it still has to be approved by Congress.
Two things. Getting enough signatures to do anything in California is easy.

Getting that anything passed by referendum not so much.
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Two things. Getting enough signatures to do anything in California is easy
Getting that anything passed by referendum not so much.
I lived in California more times than I can remember and dumb ass me voted for Jerry Brown in the Democratic Primary in 75. The last time I went to California was in 2005 and it had fallen into disrepair beyond all recognition. Movie this evening, The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad.
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Old June 13th, 2018, 07:27 PM   #6
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California will then have six Senators rather than just two which is all they deserve. There is reason behind their madness.

edit: Not to mention that someway two more stars have to be added to the American Flag. Calling Betsy Ross!
According to the division map, it will be at least two red states as a result. The Dems will NEVER allow it to happen as it will ensure that the Dems will be on the losing end of national elections and without California being held hostage as a Blue state, Dems will never win another electoral or popular vote in the foreseeable future.
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Old June 13th, 2018, 07:56 PM   #7
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The proposed division is interesting. It shows the problem in more states than Calid. The populated areas control the way elections go. ie., the coast area of Oregon sets the results of elections. This State was once a great place to live. The party in control in Salem changed on rather a regular basis, keeping things moderate. Now the Dems have been in power for a long time and it has steadily gone down hill. A failed education system, from grade schools to colleges, lots of homeless, constant raise in things taxed etc. Dem leadership has tried to copy Calif as a leader on the "environment" and continues to go down hill.
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All they have to do to make some big changes is start replacing the Dem leadership...stuck on stupid.

LOL...really? California showed a $6 billion budget SURPLUS last year. You know how they did it? With COMPETENT DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP FROM JERRY BROWN. It's called "fiscal responsibility"...the thing the GOP talks about before it gives huge unnecessary tax cuts to the ultra-rich....

Now compare that to the budgetary disaster that has followed EVERY SINGLE GOP TAX CUT EXTRAVAGANZA. Kansas - GOP disaster. Oklahoma - GOP disaster. Louisiana - GOP disaster. ETC. The GOP is distressingly incompetent on fiscal matters.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-b...nia-1515624022
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LOL...really? California showed a $6 billion budget SURPLUS last year. You know how they did it? With COMPETENT DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP FROM JERRY BROWN. It's called "fiscal responsibility"...the thing the GOP talks about before it gives huge unnecessary tax cuts to the ultra-rich....

Now compare that to the budgetary disaster that has followed EVERY SINGLE GOP TAX CUT EXTRAVAGANZA. Kansas - GOP disaster. Oklahoma - GOP disaster. Louisiana - GOP disaster. ETC. The GOP is distressingly incompetent on fiscal matters.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-b...nia-1515624022
A surplus simply means they took way more money from tax payers than the needed to operate, yay none for the people more for the government smh
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This proposal is polling at 17% in California. California is now the 5th largest economy in the world. Californians will not vote to turn California into unproductive shithole red states IMO.
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