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Old July 9th, 2018, 10:28 AM   #21
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Seems we need to get ICE hot on the trail of more of these who overstay their Visas. If they are still illegal and in the country, cuff em Danno.

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And here we are again. HOW WAS THAT MAN ABLE TO STAY IN THIS COUNTRY ??? Because SOME ONE, SOME WHERE, gave him a JOB !!!!

Here's the problem. There are approximately 200,000 law enforcement people in the country. That's everyone from the the FBI, DEA, ICE, HLS all the way down to your state police, your state bureaus of investigation, and your local county sheriff's, deputies and small towns that only have three or four officers. At the other end of the problem are the 11,000,000 to 20,000,000 illegals CURRENTLY in the country.

That means each officer would need to track down and arrest somewhere between 55 and 100 individuals to clear them all out. That would take YEARS to do, and leave ALL OTHER CRIMINALS FREE TO WAGE ALL OUT WAR on the rest of us. If you think they won't, let me tell you what happened just outside of New Orleans 20 odd years ago. I was living there at the time.

Small town, actually a suburb of New Orleans, didn't have their own police department, so they relied on the Sheriff's dept for police protection. Well there was a shooting one night. White officer, dead black teenager. Naturally the local preachers and activists were on the news with charges of racism against the Sheriff and his deputies. Even though the Sheriff was himself Chinese !! So he got on the news and stated that maybe there were some racist elements in the department and as such his department would no longer take emergency calls for that area, they could call the state police.

Two weeks later the same preachers and activists were back on the news saying they had been MISINFORMED as to the identity of the dead teenager. Turns out there were two with very similar names and the dead one was in fact a very bad kid. Loooooong record of arrests and time in both juvy and jail. Would the sheriff PLEEEEEEEAAAAAASE put the deputies back in the city. The reason ?? Crime was up 3000% !! Robberies, rapes, assaults you name it. The minimum response time for the state police was TWO HOURS, the average over all for those two weeks was closer to THREE. It was literally open season on the citizens in the absence of police.

So now, do we waste our time, energy and money trying to arrest an deport the illegals, or do we eliminate the jobs that allow them to stay in the country ??
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Old July 9th, 2018, 10:49 AM   #22
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And YOU seem to have forgotten that for SIX years of Obama's presidency REPUBLICANS controlled BOTH houses of congress.

Since 1994 REPUBLICANS have had control of at least one house of congress for 18 out of the last 22 years. They controlled BOTH houses of congress for 12 of those years !!! Let's also keep in mind that when the Republicans lost control of congress they embarked on the largest obstruction campaign we've ever seen. They DOUBLED the record for the number of filibusters in one session, and sustained that near record level for the entire time they were the minority party. They shot down THEIR OWN ideas just because Obama supported them.

So PLEASE explain how this is the "liberal's fault" ????

The FACT is, the CORPORATE MASTERS do not want the problem fixed. Illegal's help keep wages low for EVERYONE. It ripples ALL the way up into the upper middle class.
With the Democrats fighting for amnesty, and a president more than willing to veto any legislation. In CA, we now know that not only are the middle-class leaving this state because of higher taxes to subsidize illegal aliens, the rich as well are leaving.
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Old July 9th, 2018, 11:00 AM   #23
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With the Democrats fighting for amnesty, and a president more than willing to veto any legislation. In CA, we now know that not only are the middle-class leaving this state because of higher taxes to subsidize illegal aliens, the rich as well are leaving.
It wasn't the dems that were fighting for amnesty YOU BUTT BUDDY BUSH was pushing hard for it until he got shouted down by BOTH parties.
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Keeping them from getting int the country to begin with is the best way to fix most of the problem. Putting illegals on a revolving door program might just cause Mexico to keep them away from the border to begin with. We're paying Mexico to keep illegals from crossing their southern border, why isn't it working?
No. Making it impossible for them to stay here if they do make it here is the BEST way to fix the problem. Do that and the only sort of border wall you would need is thin posts with a nylon cord strung along it. And with brightly colored tassels on it so people could see it better. Next, the mexicans are already in a revolving door program. Many have been deported multiple times. It isn't working. Next, as far as I have ever heard, the U.S. doesn't pay mexico anything to keep their citizens out. And even if the U.S. does pay something in that regard, drug lords pay far more to bring them in.
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Old July 9th, 2018, 02:03 PM   #25
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As Mexico demanded protection for Mexican immigrants in the U.S., such as granting more visas, the Mexican government were accused of not granting the same civil rights to their immigrants (living in mexico).

PDF: page 9 of (keywords: Wilson Center, LZ Gonzalez-Murphy, 2011)

And if the U.S. needed a guide for reform, they need look no further than the Mexican constitution

Seems like Mexico has been disinforming the public on US vs Mexican Immigration Laws. A hidden agenda perhaps? I don't mean to sound conspiratorial.
I "demand" that mexico, as well as those who support or are members of LaRaza (The Race), kiss my White American Ass! As for their "immigration" laws, looking at those from Honduras or elsewhere, mexico also needs to pass an anti-"just pass'in through" law.
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I read threads like this and I have to be amazed at just how ignorant some people are, and then how lacking in compassion they are. IMO it is the ignorance that drives the lack of compassion,

First off, if any of you fools understood American Asylum Law you would know the migrants are trying to enter the country legally. However, Trump, who has never seen a law he would not violate, keeps them from entering legally thus they have to do so illegally. And American law does allow for this illegal entry.

Next, what part of the law allows for the separation of children from their parents, and then deporting the parent without the child? In fact, DHHS has no idea of where the parent is, or the child.

Next, there is a program called MAVNI. You really should look it up.

Finally, Melania Trump violated American law when she came here. Why not deport her, and keep Brannon here?
You are the ignorant one. Some might also say traitorous. And screw your compassion. My compassion lies with my fellow White American minority. Also, I prefer the Rambo philosophy. "When in doubt, kill."

Also, the only thing anybody from mexico or those from places like Syria are seeking "asylum" from is poverty. But that is their doing. Not ours. We shouldn't have to suffer for their decisions. Next, the U.S. shouldn't be separating children from their parents. They should all be sent back together. Also, if Melania was a Trump, she didn't come here illegally. But even if she wasn't, "illegal" should NEVER apply to hot White chicks. NEVER!
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You just made a great point. I wonder if the OP can answer in any intelligent way?
Read post #26.
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Evidently not. In fact, I have seen very few intelligent arguments from the radical right wing on any topic.
I just did.
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Seems we need to get ICE hot on the trail of more of these who overstay their Visas. If they are still illegal and in the country, cuff em Danno.

https://www.chicksonright.com/youngc...-up-for-court/
I agree. But to do so, we need to be a LOT more "racist" about it. Such as by allowing police to "racially" profile people. If they look mexican, pull them over and check to see if they are here legally.
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THAT my friend would be EXACTLY MY POINT !!! What company is going to risk being driven into bankruptcy and/or out of business just to save a few dollars on their payroll ?? If the government came out tomorrow and announced the fines for employing illegals, even through sub-contractors, would be equal to the previous two years net profits. AND that any and all government contracts would be terminated immediately and any company having a contract cancelled would be barred from rebidding for five years.

How long do you think it would take every company in the nation to do a full revue of their employees and get rid of anyone that couldn't prove their citizenship ?? My guess is not long !!! Like in Alabama when they passed their new laws, the chicken packing plants in the Albertville area (there's like eight of them) suddenly had MORE THAN ONE THOUSAND job openings as the illegals bailed and went to other states !!!

BTW the company I work for had me drive four hours to one of their facilities with my passport and birth certificate. I had to PROVE I was a citizen before they made their "official" offer of employment !!!



Well we can't rescind their citizenship. There's this thing called the Constitution, maybe you've heard of it, and it says no law can be retroactive. Look up the prohibition on Ex Post Facto laws. So we can't undo what has been done. But we can certainly stop any new citizens if we pass the law needed. Literally all we need is ONE SENTENCE added to existing law.

And as I said in another post you CANNOT BLAME the liberals for this problem. NOT when the REPUBLICANS have controlled the House of Reps for 18 of the last 22 years, and not when they controlled BOTH HOUSES of congress for 12 of those years !!! EIGHT of them with a REPUBLICAN president. And NOT when the last Republican president WANTED TO GRANT THEM AMNESTY !!!!
What we first need to do is rescind the 14th amendment. Then pass another amendment that would make it ok to rescind the citizenship of the children of illegals. Going back 50 years. Mixed race or not. The only way the older illegals could be allowed to stay if they pass the White test. Which is that if a "racist" White person thinks they look White enough, they can stay. Because you couldn't ask a mexican what they thought what "White" is. Nor a negro. Or a oriental either.
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