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Old July 10th, 2018, 05:51 AM   #111
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Yes, think of the money the non working investor class could skim! A wonderful thought. Thanks!
Explain how a 401k can be skimmed? You can say fees on transactions and thats true. Then again compare those fees to ss govt. payroll. Hmmm. Yeah if I had a choice i would definitely rather have all my ss deductions going to a 401k style retirement
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Old July 10th, 2018, 06:02 AM   #112
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Liberals try to sell Trade War hoax... Dow 24,700...

what stinking Trade war? Germany Blinks.
Dow is 2,000 behind where it was 6 months ago. Yeah, Trump's "trade war" is working splendidly....
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Old July 10th, 2018, 06:16 AM   #113
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Flat market lets see when Trump took office the Dow was 19,700 the day trump took office... Dow is 5,000 higher (>25% Gain)

OOPS 25% gain is a bull market.

Damn Silly liberals, need vaccination for TDS


Obama's Market high 19,600 (4,000 points higher than the peak during the Bush Adminstration)

Trumps Market High 25,300 (5000 higher than the peak during the Obama Administration)
now now cowboy, lets be rational not a loony Trumpet.

The market rose in 17, a hang over effect from the unrepresented run Obie brought us.

As of open this year, we see a market that is basically flat. Up less than 50 points as of this morning opening. That is over 6 months of stagnation. The first 6 months that Trump's actually policies would have effected the market.

His tax cut, as predicted, has not helped the economy. On top of that, energy costs have SKYROCKETED. Up 30% in my hamlet over LY.

Real wages continue to fall. Housing and interest rates continue to rise.

So anyone who is drinking the the Trump-aide is simply on a sugar high not being reasoned and rational.

Few middle and lower class Americans are better off this year tyhan they were in Obies last year.

Sorry to introduce perspective through fact, I know how that enrages Trumpets.
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Old July 10th, 2018, 06:20 AM   #114
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Let's see, 6 moths ago, January 10th, the market was at 25,369.

This morning it opened at 24,7769.

Enough said.
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Old July 10th, 2018, 07:45 AM   #115
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Dow is 2,000 behind where it was 6 months ago. Yeah, Trump's "trade war" is working splendidly....
Didn't something like this happen before?

Here is some information for people who want to protect our farmers...


Agriculture secretary meets with Eastern Oregon farmers - - Capital Press

The good thing for US consumers is desperate farmers may end up dumping their produce very cheaply. The bad news is they could stop farming and then the price of food will escalate. I live in Oregon and what is happening does not look like a good thing in Oregon. I travel a few miles down the road to buy produce at the farms. It is my neighbors, the farmers who are being hurt and that hurts my state and I am not happy about this.

At the same time some crops are not being planted do to fear of farm labor shortage caused by aggressive action to prevent migration from the South.

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This year, the fear of not having enough undocumented labor or enough H2-A workers has farmers planting fewer crops across the Hudson Valley. “Farmers are afraid they won’t be able to harvest what they plant,” said Steve Ammerman of the New York Farm Bureau. Ammerman told me there’s a disconnect in Washington, D.C., between what the Trump administration thinks immigration enforcement means for America and what it really means. “It means food prices are going to go up, hurting national security,” he said. Ammerman pointed to a recent study that estimates the consequences if all undocumented New York agricultural workers are deported: There would be a 24 percent fall in farm production (amounting to $1.37 billion in commodity value lost) and a knock-on effect of nearly 45,000 lost jobs across the state.
I think Trump's intentions are good, but that his knowledge of how these things work is too limited.

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Old July 10th, 2018, 09:40 AM   #116
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NO! I didn't miss the point. I was being facetious and I stand by my statement. Prez ADHD doesn't DO strategy. There's a big difference between strategy and approach.
Playing on peoples fears and anger is NOT a strategy. It's an approach--a feeding frenzy--a style--a pounding, repetitive pattern.
Strategy requires reflection, caution, progression and deliberation. Trump has none of those qualities....and he doesn't listen to his advisors so there's no way he uses strategic skills.
Trump brags about "going with his gut" which makes SOME OF us nauseous.
He is the greatest believer in Goebbels's methods. He has three tweets he keeps repeating. One has "witch hunt" in it, one has "Dirty Hillary and Crooked Comey" in it and one is about how the US is being cheated in international trade.

And he repeats them again and again and again. The Trumpanzees believed the first ones. Fine, we expected that.

But it appears that more and more normals are starting to weaken.
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I think Trump's intentions are good,.

this is something i never expected to hear any human say. Trumpet or not.

I got a bridge for sale, I think you are my guy!
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I think Trump's intentions are good, but that his knowledge of how these things work is too limited.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
and then you have people like TRrump who work to get in
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Old July 10th, 2018, 10:05 AM   #120
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Let's see, 6 moths ago, January 10th, the market was at 25,369.

This morning it opened at 24,7769.

Enough said.
Worse than that. On Jan 26 it closed at 26,616. It's down about 2K since then.
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