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Old July 12th, 2018, 08:45 AM   #101
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So...you are implying Braveheart was hitting on other guys for .."immoral" reasons?
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Old July 12th, 2018, 08:48 AM   #102
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You didn't take on:

Everything that happens is "God's will."

(Your) God isn't God. What (your) God wants doesn't necessarily come to pass. That God is neither omnipotent nor omniscient.

That's the story invented by the Church of Rome and subsequently (accepted by) all her daughter churches, a story used to control people, and to make it possible for "christian' churches to ally themselves with human governments, of which all stand in opposition to the Kingdom of God.

You didn't because you can't. All you can do is repeat lines from the alternative gospel you've been taught, the one that nations use to justify their satanic actions.

I have no expectation of your accepting the universal love of the Creator. Hopefully, others will be moved to reexamine the nature of God as described in the Bible, which is not a God who watches his creations - born into a world dominated by Satan, and born with a "natural inclination" to sin - "choose" to go to hell.

It's another gospel you've accepted along with another Christ. No worries. God desires all to be saved. The true God's desires are fulfilled. They have to be for God to be God.
Are you stating it's God's will for us to sin?

God wants us to live like the example he sent, but free will allows us to live outside that. He is all knowing, all powerful, always present, that doesn't mean he created us to be robots.

Are you saying he isn't all knowing, and all powerful?

If everyone will be saved you are saying the cross didn't matter. God would have just saved us anyway. That is not true at all he was the perfect sacrificial lamb, without spot without blemish! He fulfilled prophecy!
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Are you stating it's God's will for us to sin?

God wants us to live like the example he sent, but free will allows us to live outside that. He is all knowing, all powerful, always present, that doesn't mean he created us to be robots.

Are you saying he isn't all knowing, and all powerful?

If everyone will be saved you are saying the cross didn't matter. God would have just saved us anyway. That is not true at all he was the perfect sacrificial lamb, without spot without blemish! He fulfilled prophecy!
Yep, all that was known when A&E committed their first sin, which an all-knowing God knew they would do.

Your biggest problem in accepting universal salvation is that it removes your feeling of specialness. I understand.

But a Gospel of universal salvation indeed is good news. A gospel in which the bulk of created, defective humanity are condemned to eternal hell isn't good news at all.
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Which God are you talking about? There are thousands of the critters, each with its own unique name and characteristics. The biblical God is Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies. He's not very interested in being pals with Gentiles.
WHICH God you ask. You are NOT monotheistic? You believe their are multiple Gods and NOT many WAYS that humans perceive and worship ONE God?
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...Are you saying he isn't all knowing, and all powerful?
No, that's what you are saying. I'm saying just the opposite.
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To stupid to even respond to.
Too late,you've already said that I am correct....
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Old July 12th, 2018, 09:02 AM   #107
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No, that's what you are saying. I'm saying just the opposite.
This is always my favorite question to ask:

What happens to all the people who have never heard of Braveheart's god? There are many tribes in South America that are so far removed from the modern world that they've never even seen a car, let alone heard of the Christian god.

What happens to these people? Do they automatically go straight to hell? Of do they get a free pass to heaven?

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Yep, all that was known when A&E committed their first sin, which an all-knowing God knew they would do.

Your biggest problem in accepting universal salvation is that it removes your feeling of specialness. I understand.

But a Gospel of universal salvation indeed is good news. A gospel in which the bulk of created, defective humanity are condemned to eternal hell isn't good news at all.
It is also bat crap crazy and un biblical.

It has nothing to do with how special I am, it is about how big the sacrifice was.

If God was going to save us all anyway, why the cross, why the crucifixion? Why unless a man be born again, why two will be in the field, one will be taken one will be left.
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So...you are implying Braveheart was hitting on other guys for .."immoral" reasons?
The original question was why was the comment censored. I provided a link to the word used. You can draw your own conclusions from reading the comments in the thread.
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Yep, all that was known when A&E committed their first sin, which an all-knowing God knew they would do.

Your biggest problem in accepting universal salvation is that it removes your feeling of specialness. I understand.

But a Gospel of universal salvation indeed is good news. A gospel in which the bulk of created, defective humanity are condemned to eternal hell isn't good news at all.
According to the biblical fairy tale the only people who really make out in the after life are the twelve tribes of Israel. If Gentiles get eternal life they might end up as slaves forever.

Matthew 19:28-30; Isaiah 14:1-2

Our domestic and foreign policies are based on an ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern religious fairy tale that some people think applies to us. It doesn't.
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