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Old June 1st, 2012, 08:33 AM   #61
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You have stated that politicians are bought and paid for by large corporations and financial institutions. IT is right, a revolution has to occur, starting with the, as you state, "We the People" electing all new Representatives and Senators who cannot be bought by the banks. And electing a president who stands for real money backed by the government not based at interest. Obama and Romney will never support ending the Fed, they are puppets of the real string pullers of this nation, the bankers.


It's very important that we keep a democrat in office so he can change the disposition of the Supreme Court that will over rule the notion that corporations are people and money is speech that corrupt our politicians just as you say.


However, I cannot support a president, congress, or SCOTUS that feels that it is right an proper to force me to purchase ANYTHING from a private industry. I am all for UHC however, it must be completely controlled by the government. And even that presents so very dangerous issues.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 08:38 AM   #62
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Yes I know what fractional reserve banking is. And even though I didn't explained it in as much detail as you did, I thought I was still accurate when I explained reserve requirements. I get that currency is debt, but is wealth debt? The wealth that is accumulated from turning a log into paper, a piece of wood into an axe, steel into a care, is that debt too imaginethat?


As a matter of fact those tangible items are made from debt to be paid to another debtor. Every asset is debt, because you must pay taxes on any piece asset you have. A car, a house, grocery's, etc. The debt is being paid to the store, the supplier, the farmer, the bank. Banks own everything, The fiat dollar made into existance out of debt at interest will keep us enslaved to the banks for as long as this economic thought continues.


That's why we should nationalize the Fed and end private fractional reserve banking. It should be regulated.

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End private fractional reserve banking? Does that mean you support nationalized fractional reserves? The point of ending the Fed is rid the US Economy of money being created from debt at interest. 100% reserve for all bank loans is required to rid the banking system of what happened in 2008-2009. Ending all branches of the Federal Reserve is the only solution. Keeping one bank in the capital that is charged with the creation of money(run by no one but government officials) highly regulated by congressional legislation is the best way to end inflation/deflation and maintain the value of the USGD(United States Government Dollar).

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I support Mr. Kucinich proposal and it will do just as well to fixing this problem.



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I read the NEED Act, and I agree, this is a great solution to the Fed problem. I wish more and more congressmen/women and senators would support this Bill and others like it.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 08:49 AM   #63
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It's seems to be a well thought-out plan as well. I know it will get lost and never come to fruition but the more the Citizens know about what our money is, the more they will catch on to this answer for our indebtedness.
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[quote name='Danjb25' timestamp='1338465271' post='405266']

You have stated that politicians are bought and paid for by large corporations and financial institutions. IT is right, a revolution has to occur, starting with the, as you state, "We the People" electing all new Representatives and Senators who cannot be bought by the banks. And electing a president who stands for real money backed by the government not based at interest. Obama and Romney will never support ending the Fed, they are puppets of the real string pullers of this nation, the bankers.


It's very important that we keep a democrat in office so he can change the disposition of the Supreme Court that will over rule the notion that corporations are people and money is speech that corrupt our politicians just as you say.


However, I cannot support a president, congress, or SCOTUS that feels that it is right an proper to force me to purchase ANYTHING from a private industry. I am all for UHC however, it must be completely controlled by the government. And even that presents so very dangerous issues.

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It doesn't. If you don't buy coverage you are forced to pay a fee on your income tax return. Big difference.
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Old June 1st, 2012, 02:18 PM   #65
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I read the NEED Act, and I agree, this is a great solution to the Fed problem. I wish more and more congressmen/women and senators would support this Bill and others like it.


Glad that we can agree.
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You have stated that politicians are bought and paid for by large corporations and financial institutions. IT is right, a revolution has to occur, starting with the, as you state, "We the People" electing all new Representatives and Senators who cannot be bought by the banks. And electing a president who stands for real money backed by the government not based at interest. Obama and Romney will never support ending the Fed, they are puppets of the real string pullers of this nation, the bankers.


It's very important that we keep a democrat in office so he can change the disposition of the Supreme Court that will over rule the notion that corporations are people and money is speech that corrupt our politicians just as you say.


However, I cannot support a president, congress, or SCOTUS that feels that it is right an proper to force me to purchase ANYTHING from a private industry. I am all for UHC however, it must be completely controlled by the government. And even that presents so very dangerous issues.

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I'm glad that you're for a national healthcare plan, but waitingtables is right. You're not forced to buy anything.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 04:32 AM   #67
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The problem is not in banks, but in those who are in charge of them. If we still have same system it only means that a group of people or even one person is benefiting from it. Simple as that. So no matter how many people get to watch this video, individuals with more money will keep on ruling this world. Whoever is in charge of the todayís economy, he or she does not care about our multiple debts and finance troubles, so relax and we canít help it. It is not like something really depends on us.
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That's like saying because there are still bank robberies, lets get rid of the bank robbery laws.
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