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Old June 20th, 2012, 04:26 PM   #51
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You do realize that when the floors were falling, it was sounding like explosions, right, and causing force outwards? If RC you believe that it was a planned event, may I ask you just who you think was behind it? And why? Maybe you should actually start your own thread about it since this isn't the right place for it?


This is RC's thread so it's his call as to what fits.



All those questions you asked are fine, worthy, but a lack of firm answers for those questions don't determine whether or not demotions occurred or if the official story is true. I mean, don't you know that nano-thermite residues have been found in the WTC dust? Haven't you seen the steel beams that sure as hell look like they were cut by thermite?







Have you seen the molten metal flowing down the building before the collapse? Take a look down this page a bit. The debunkers say, it's aluminum from the planes ... only, molten aluminum is silver in color.



Have you done any research whatsoever WT? Have you heard the explosions on many, many videos? Some definitely occur before building collapse. Some were heard way before, some were heard in the basements.



Really, you need not answer any of my questions, because anyone who does research, who examines the Pentagon impact flight path, and the guy who supposedly pulled off a maneuver that would be borderline impossible for an excellent pilot, on and on....



It's pretty clear that you have bought into "Any explanation other than the official one is a conspiracy theory."



The true conspiracy theory is that things happened the way the government explained they happened. That takes real leaps of faith, and ignoring heaps of evidence. But, it's a "comfortable" explanation, so many buy it.


Really? Cause I didn't want to be accused of asking for a thread to go off topic with discussing it here,it since this thread was about more quantitative easing. I was actually trying to respect RC's thread. Thanks for your input though. I haven't bought into anything, BTW. Please don't assume that I have from my questions. You would be wrong.
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Actually, this is all related. And if anyone here will face these facts honestly, and come to grips with what it means that this building was wired with explosives prior to 911, then we can proceed to the connections. For the life of me, the evidence is directly in front of everyone here, and only IT will seemingly recognize the obvious fact that the building was wired in advance of 911. What is going on here? Are you people all on the government payroll or something? This is just too obvious. Look at the picture of the building 7 column sliced of at an angle. That angle is the same on all of the steel columns. That is so that when the building is detonated, it 'walks.' This could not have happened by chance. Why do you people not acknowledge the obvious truth here?
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Nothing is obvious and anyone that says it is is probably trying to mislead you or me.
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Actually, this is all related. And if anyone here will face these facts honestly, and come to grips with what it means that this building was wired with explosives prior to 911, then we can proceed to the connections. For the life of me, the evidence is directly in front of everyone here, and only IT will seemingly recognize the obvious fact that the building was wired in advance of 911. What is going on here? Are you people all on the government payroll or something? This is just too obvious. Look at the picture of the building 7 column sliced of at an angle. That angle is the same on all of the steel columns. That is so that when the building is detonated, it 'walks.' This could not have happened by chance. Why do you people not acknowledge the obvious truth here?




I only saw explosives on one or maybe two floors of Building 7, not the entire structure.



How long would it take to install those explosives? Only a couple of hours?



And those girders, what building were they in? Is the pic Photoshopped?
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Gary, no, it would take several weeks to do that. And the demolition has to be designed and installed precisely as to the demolition design. Every building is different. It takes an expert to do this kind of work. Furthermore, there are at least 20 separate explosions on different floors evident in that video.



And now here is the kicker. According to Larry Silver Stein, the leaseholders of the ETC, the voice you hear in the video, the fire department 'pulled' the building. That means that it was imploded. But in 2007, the official federal MIST report indicates that the building came down on its own, due to fire. How do we explain that the owners of the place admits it was demolished by explosives, but years later the Bush Administration disagrees?
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Gary, please watch this video.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2q2mD2HaKA



And then watch this one.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSnjy...05045A2429C95F
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And then watch this one



And then watch this one.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXZnv...eature=related
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You do realize that when the floors were falling, it was sounding like explosions, right, and causing force outwards? If RC you believe that it was a planned event, may I ask you just who you think was behind it? And why? Maybe you should actually start your own thread about it since this isn't the right place for it?


This is RC's thread so it's his call as to what fits.



All those questions you asked are fine, worthy, but a lack of firm answers for those questions don't determine whether or not demotions occurred or if the official story is true. I mean, don't you know that nano-thermite residues have been found in the WTC dust? Haven't you seen the steel beams that sure as hell look like they were cut by thermite?







Have you seen the molten metal flowing down the building before the collapse? Take a look down this page a bit. The debunkers say, it's aluminum from the planes ... only, molten aluminum is silver in color.



Have you done any research whatsoever WT? Have you heard the explosions on many, many videos? Some definitely occur before building collapse. Some were heard way before, some were heard in the basements.



Really, you need not answer any of my questions, because anyone who does research, who examines the Pentagon impact flight path, and the guy who supposedly pulled off a maneuver that would be borderline impossible for an excellent pilot, on and on....



It's pretty clear that you have bought into "Any explanation other than the official one is a conspiracy theory."



The true conspiracy theory is that things happened the way the government explained they happened. That takes real leaps of faith, and ignoring heaps of evidence. But, it's a "comfortable" explanation, so many buy it.


Really? Cause I didn't want to be accused of asking for a thread to go off topic with discussing it here,it since this thread was about more quantitative easing. I was actually trying to respect RC's thread. Thanks for your input though. I haven't bought into anything, BTW. Please don't assume that I have from my questions. You would be wrong.

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Clue: The fiscal forces that have worked diligently to bring the world under their control, 911, and quantitative easing just might have a connection.



And if RC, on a thread he started, doesn't think it's disrespectful to discuss 911 on his thread, that's good enough for me. Plus, I didn't understand your bringing the MMT into a thread about the Fed and quantitative easing, if staying on topic is vital.
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Gary, no, it would take several weeks to do that. And the demolition has to be designed and installed precisely as to the demolition design. Every building is different. It takes an expert to do this kind of work. Furthermore, there are at least 20 separate explosions on different floors evident in that video.



And now here is the kicker. According to Larry Silver Stein, the leaseholders of the ETC, the voice you hear in the video, the fire department 'pulled' the building. That means that it was imploded. But in 2007, the official federal MIST report indicates that the building came down on its own, due to fire. How do we explain that the owners of the place admits it was demolished by explosives, but years later the Bush Administration disagrees?


It's the NIST report, RC, and it was a complete joke. I read it. It's totally nonsensical. The mechanism proposed for the collapse, the expansion of horizontal trusses, combined with its explanation of how the fires burned, essentially burning themselves out before being able to provide the heat necessary to "expand" the trusses, is a bad fairy tale.



Of course, Popular Mechanics, which undoubtedly was paid well for its role as primary debunker, cheered the NIST report saying it put "conspiracy theories" to rest, which it did not do.



The collapse of WTC 7 was a classic implosion, with the classic "kink" in the top of the building showing that the innermost support was taken out so that the building would collapse inward on itself.



WTC 7 was not the ONLY thing about the events of 911 that did not add up, The Pentagon hit was all but impossible according to every professional pilots' association that examined the flight plan and took into account the laws of physics. Several professional engineering groups went on record as saying the collapse of the twin towers made no sense. For goodness' sake, both fell at nearly free-fall speed, defying the laws of physics! The ground scar in Shanksville, PA existed BEFORE the alleged crash, and the debris field was scattered over miles indicating the plane blew up in the air. Bush delayed beginning the 911 investigation, and radically under-funded it.



But one task was pulled off well. Somehow, most people were convinced that any questioning the full-of-holes official story is a conspiracy theorist. That hypnotic feat was pulled off well.
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