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Old October 22nd, 2010, 09:52 AM   #1
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Poll says Californians oppose legalisation of marijuana

California's marijuana legalization ballot initiative, Proposition 19, is trailing badly, according to a new Los Angeles Times/USC poll, which found likely voters opposing the measure 51% to 39%.



Top candidates for statewide office have opposed the measure. As the Times/USC poll was being conducted last week, U.S. Atty. Gen. Eric Holder announced that the Obama administration would "vigorously enforce" federal narcotics laws, even if the measure passes, and "is considering all available legal and policy options."



The poll, a joint effort by The Times and USC College of Letters, Arts and Sciences, found the measure favored by Democrats and independents, but overwhelmingly opposed by Republicans. Men were split, and women were leaning against it.



Both sides consider mothers a key swing vote and have debated whether the measure would do more to keep marijuana out of the hands of children or would increase use.



Likely voters younger than 40 are in favor of it by 48% to 37%, but older voters, who say they are more enthusiastic about voting in this election, are not. Among likely voters 65 and over, only 28% support the measure, while 59% said they were opposed.



The measure, which needs a majority vote to pass, would allow Californians who are at least 21 to grow up to 25 square feet of marijuana and possess up to an ounce. Cities and counties could authorize commercial cultivation and sales, and could impose taxes.



Some polls have shown Latino voters, initially against legalization, swinging toward it, but the Times/USC poll found they are opposed to it by 2 to 1. White voters also oppose the measure.



Supporters of legalization have sought to appeal to minorities by highlighting statistics showing that they are arrested for marijuana possession at higher rates than whites. Opponents note that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger already has signed a law making possession of an ounce an infraction.



The poll found Proposition 19 leading only in the Central Coast counties and running far behind in the largely conservative Central Valley and in Southern California.



The poll is the second public survey this week to find Proposition 19 failing. Earlier this week, the Public Policy Institute of California released a poll that had the initiative falling short, with 44% for it and 49% opposed, a turnaround from a poll in September that had showed Proposition 19 with majority support.




Prop. 19 trailing badly, poll shows - latimes.com
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None of this matters one bit. If the propostion is passed, some judge will just overturn it shortly thereafter. Voting is meaningless in California.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 10:10 AM   #3
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None of this matters one bit. If the propostion is passed, some judge will just overturn it shortly thereafter. Voting is meaningless in California.




Surely dope smokers deserve the same rights and protections as tobacco smokers? Or banana skin smokers??



If you get the right Judge you can get anything passed under the 14th Amendment, the new 'Get Out Of Jail Free' carte blanche built into the Constitution.
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The "anti young people" old people. All that H8.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 06:30 AM   #6
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California's marijuana legalization ballot initiative, Proposition 19, is trailing badly, according to a new Los Angeles Times/USC poll, which found likely voters opposing the measure 51% to 39%.



Top candidates for statewide office have opposed the measure. As the Times/USC poll was being conducted last week, U.S. Atty. Gen. Eric Holder announced that the Obama administration would "vigorously enforce" federal narcotics laws, even if the measure passes, and "is considering all available legal and policy options."



The poll, a joint effort by The Times and USC College of Letters, Arts and Sciences, found the measure favored by Democrats and independents, but overwhelmingly opposed by Republicans. Men were split, and women were leaning against it.



Both sides consider mothers a key swing vote and have debated whether the measure would do more to keep marijuana out of the hands of children or would increase use.



Likely voters younger than 40 are in favor of it by 48% to 37%, but older voters, who say they are more enthusiastic about voting in this election, are not. Among likely voters 65 and over, only 28% support the measure, while 59% said they were opposed.



The measure, which needs a majority vote to pass, would allow Californians who are at least 21 to grow up to 25 square feet of marijuana and possess up to an ounce. Cities and counties could authorize commercial cultivation and sales, and could impose taxes.



Some polls have shown Latino voters, initially against legalization, swinging toward it, but the Times/USC poll found they are opposed to it by 2 to 1. White voters also oppose the measure.



Supporters of legalization have sought to appeal to minorities by highlighting statistics showing that they are arrested for marijuana possession at higher rates than whites. Opponents note that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger already has signed a law making possession of an ounce an infraction.



The poll found Proposition 19 leading only in the Central Coast counties and running far behind in the largely conservative Central Valley and in Southern California.



The poll is the second public survey this week to find Proposition 19 failing. Earlier this week, the Public Policy Institute of California released a poll that had the initiative falling short, with 44% for it and 49% opposed, a turnaround from a poll in September that had showed Proposition 19 with majority support.




Prop. 19 trailing badly, poll shows - latimes.com


I think it is a bit premature to accurately predict from polls which way California's proposition 19 is going to go.



And, I think it is interesting to note that the Proposition 19 polls whereby an automated polling process is utilized tend, on average, to show the measure passing when compared with a live polling process which tend, on average, to show the proposition failing.



And for anyone interested, they can find a summary of the various polls concerning Proposition 19 here:



California Proposition 19 (2010) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



We shall see what happens on Tuesday...
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Stop Stifling Prop. 19 Supporters



Write Attorney General Eric Holder today and tell him to stay out of the Prop. 19 debate and respect voters' choices!
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Before I left Kabul, I went to a local bar run by an American. It had an outdoor section with hookas on the tables. Normally a sweet spicy substance is smoked that has no intoxicating effect. The night I was there an Afghan came up and put real hash in ours.
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I think it is a bit premature to accurately predict from polls which way California's proposition 19 is going to go.



And, I think it is interesting to note that the Proposition 19 polls whereby an automated polling process is utilized tend, on average, to show the measure passing when compared with a live polling process which tend, on average, to show the proposition failing.



And for anyone interested, they can find a summary of the various polls concerning Proposition 19 here:



California Proposition 19 (2010) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



We shall see what happens on Tuesday...


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Even if CA votes Yes smoking dope will still be a Federal offence.
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