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imaginethat May 10th, 2013 06:46 PM

Ron Paul: States rejecting failed war on drugs
 
Sanity, constitutionality, states' rights, plain talk.

I can't wait to grow some sinsemilla outdoors this summer!!! :mrgreen:

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Ron Paul: States rejecting failed war on drugs

Former Texas Rep. Ron Paul says the United States is “making progress” in rejecting the failed war on drugs by loosening state drug laws.

Mr. Paul, a 2012 presidential candidate and libertarian icon, said on his weekly radio podcast that people will eventually wake up and realize that “prohibition doesn’t work.”

“Many states now are expressing themselves, passing laws in defiance of the federal government, … and they should have the right to legalize marijuana or whatever they want,” Mr. Paul said.

Mr. Paul said that he does not endorse the use of drugs, but that it is the job of parents — not the federal government — to prevent kids from using drugs.

Colorado voters passed an amendment in November legalizing marijuana for recreational use by adults and this week state lawmakers there passed bills that set the taxes and regulations for marijuana sales. Voters in Washington also passed an amendment last fall legalizing marijuana.

Mr. Paul estimated that the federal government has spent upwards of $3 trillion waging the war on drugs and said that the nation has little to show for it.

He said the prisons are filled with drug users convicted of nonviolent crimes and that black Americans are disproportionately affected by strict drug laws.

“The prisons are filled with minorities for drug use,” Mr. Paul said, “but for some reason there are not too many people that want to talk about this.”

excalibur May 10th, 2013 06:56 PM

As I say, decriminalize.

The fed war on drugs is unconstitutional, prohibition, and the need to amend the Constitution, proves that to be so. Just because the judiciary punted on drugs doesn't make it right. We ought not be ruled by five in black robes, whom no one ever elected to anything.

imaginethat May 10th, 2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by excalibur (Post 489312)
As I say, decriminalize.

The fed war on drugs is unconstitutional, prohibition, and the need to amend the Constitution, proves that to be so. Just because the judiciary punted on drugs doesn't make it right. We ought not be ruled by five in black robes, whom no one ever elected to anything.

To me, the constitutionality of federal drug prohibition has always been as plain as the 18th Amendment.

Now, everyone can watch Colorado and Washington and see if either or both go straight to hell, laboratories as our system of government was intended to be.

I doubt either will be heading to hell.

excalibur May 10th, 2013 07:15 PM

The problem is the New Deal era remaking of the Commerce Clause. That is how they lie, all three branches, with the SCOTUS the worst of 'em all. See: Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111, 63 S. Ct. 82, 87 L. Ed. 122 (1942).

Tony May 10th, 2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by imaginethat (Post 489309)
Sanity, constitutionality, states' rights, plain talk.

I can't wait to grow some sinsemilla outdoors this summer!!! :mrgreen:

Try some Chemical Valley Kush if you can...seeing as it's now legal where you are! I have an old friend about to check out (cigarettes got 'im) and that's what he likes...

BTW: what is entailed over there in Colorado? You just go to a package store, or what? :huh:

imaginethat May 10th, 2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony (Post 489334)
Try some Chemical Valley Kush if you can...seeing as it's now legal where you are! I have an old friend about to check out (cigarettes got 'im) and that's what he likes...

BTW: what is entailed over there in Colorado? You just go to a package store, or what? :huh:

That's the way it's going to work. I don't know if a MMJ store can make recreational sales. MMJ stores advertise on the radio and newspapers now, and it's hilarious.

A Colorado citizen or visitor can grow his or her own, not so in Washington.

I rarely indulge, but I'm for sure growing some outdoors. I want to smile at a police officer who happens to be driving by while tending a plant, and have him or her smile back.

To me, growing cannabis is an art form. A picture I painted a few years ago.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8242/eleanacopy.jpg

Tony May 10th, 2013 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by imaginethat (Post 489349)
That's the way it's going to work. I don't know if a MMJ store can make recreational sales. MMJ stores advertise on the radio and newspapers now, and it's hilarious.

A Colorado citizen or visitor can grow his or her own, not so in Washington.

I rarely indulge, but I'm for sure growing some outdoors. I want to smile at a police officer who happens to be driving by while tending a plant, and have him or her smile back.

To me, growing cannabis is an art form. A picture I painted a few years ago.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8242/eleanacopy.jpg

Looks like Purple Urkle, to me!

RNG May 11th, 2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony (Post 489367)
Looks like Purple Urkle, to me!

He painted it when he was high - give the guy a break!!!!11!1!!

imaginethat May 11th, 2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RNG (Post 489453)
He painted it when he was high - give the guy a break!!!!11!1!!

You got that backwards.

It painted me.... :mrgreen:

Nienna May 11th, 2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by imaginethat (Post 489316)
To me, the constitutionality of federal drug prohibition has always been as plain as the 18th Amendment.

Now, everyone can watch Colorado and Washington and see if either or both go straight to hell, laboratories as our system of government was intended to be.

I doubt either will be heading to hell.

Don't count your chickens yet, they tend to look bigger on drugs :D

Colorado and Washington are two of my favorite states, but I really don't think drugs solves anything.


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